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[ejunniim]

Now would they more then likely be groomed for positions of political power like advisers and such, quite possibly.

At the same time it also depends on the lore we are given for the Female Hrothgar that the Player can choose comes from since I think most if not all Bozjan female Hrothgar are gone [...]

That made me think about the gear, wouldn't it make more sense if their gear reflected that?

This is actually quite an interesting topic. As far as I would suggest, that due to the leadership position of women, the option with advisors is really good; also I believe that even the queen's maidens must have had fighting skills.
They definitely had to be trained, but since serving one queen could take a lifetime, I would compare them to ladies-in-waiting. That is, there could be a certain level of education, including political. Yet...

Regarding "disappearance", I have a whole section to analyze, and will be happy to introduce you to it.
At this, please, remember the moment when Ysayle appeared in the story. Back to it, Garlemald experienced a wave of "mercy" towards the "savages", believing that not everything in Eorzea deserved genocide. But when it became clear that someone had managed to summon Shiva alone and of their own free will, expressed fears were, that the Garleans, with their hate of any questions of it, would grind everyone into dust.
Now let's return to Bozja. Since the cult of the queen continued continuously for quite a long time, and the locals had a fairly clear plan to summon the Primal (usually through a woman), I have long had the assumption that the Hrothgar women were hunted; this sounds terrible, but makes sense to those who feared Save the Queen coming. But do Bozjan people look like idiots? No, I do not think so. Initially SE’ version of their “hide and seek” seemed far-fetched, but, in all, it makes sense. Probably, some of them would have been transported somewhere else - to the Tural as option, which is not as closed as Meracydia, for example.

[Nureus]

At this, please, remember the moment when Ysayle appeared in the story. Back to it, Garlemald experienced a wave of "mercy" towards the "savages", believing that not everything in Eorzea deserved genocide. But when it became clear that someone had managed to summon Shiva alone and of their own free will, expressed fears were, that the Garleans, with their hate of any questions of it, would grind everyone into dust.
Now let's return to Bozja. Since the cult of the queen continued continuously for quite a long time, and the locals had a fairly clear plan to summon the Primal (usually through a woman), I have long had the assumption that the Hrothgar women were hunted; this sounds terrible, but makes sense to those who feared Save the Queen coming. But do Bozjan people look like idiots? No, I do not think so. Initially SE’ version of their “hide and seek” seemed far-fetched, but, in all, it makes sense. Probably, some of them would have been transported somewhere else - to the Tural as option, which is not as closed as Meracydia, for example.

I mean there could be a possibility of Bozjan Hrothgal refugees going to Tural especially if they knew that there are large settlements in Tural and going there could allow for safety while Bozja is reclaimed. The problem though is less the Garleans hunting down in fear of primal summonings and more along the lines of the Bozja Incident catching probably 90-100% of the Bozjan Hrothgal population in the blast turning the place into the mostly barren wasteland it is today. The reason why I think this is a possibility is not only lore wise that Hrothgals generally didn't leave settlements but the Level 60-70 GNB story backs this up talking about the loss of Radovan's Family. Now not saying that SE can't recon the story but they might choose to not again won't know till JP:FF.

[GTK0HLK]

Now not saying that SE can't recon the story but they might choose to not again won't know till JP:FF.

Which brings up a small thought of discussion.
When will the next Encyclopedia Eorzea drop?
can't recall the last time it was mentioned, if it doesn't come around til after(or slightly before) Dawntrail, would it also carry more info about Female Hrothgar?

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Dec 19, 2023 it says, checking it myself, so I can cover any potential thing that comes up.
Which if anything, it may cover more about Bozjan Hrothgar. or Superficial Details of Turali Hrothgar.
(Though, seeing as it is before JP FFest. I doubt more detail about Rothgals will be present. Even if they were to be sly.)
But would it indicate more on how their society's East or West operate? East potentially, west very unlikely.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Which brings up a small thought of discussion.
When will the next Encyclopedia Eorzea drop?
can't recall the last time it was mentioned, if it doesn't come around til after(or slightly before) Dawntrail, would it also carry more info about Female Hrothgar?

Should be shipped on December 20th, so will probably have Endwalker info but most likely nothing that will spoil anything in Dawntrail.

[Pip_Chick]

Anything is possible from a lore standpoint, they could retcon a lot of Hrothgar lore, they already did from what I can tell from the little we got in the encyclopedia preview, remains to be seen in December. I already preordered the book and can't wait to learn more!
As for the female Hrothgar being hunted down in the fear that one of them might turn into "Save the Queen", I have already speculated on it previously. Which is not as far-fetched as it sounds since we know how xenophobic the Empire is. The question is if that were the case, it would have started around the occupation so seeing this the resistance immediately must have tried to sneak female Hrothgar out to different places in order to keep them safe. But that must have been hard, looking at the map, Bozja is close to Doma and Dalmasca which we know were already under the Empire's rule, so their only hope would have been to either go to Eorzea, Raz-at-Han or the New World. And since we know that there are Hrothgar in Old Sharlyan, my money would be on that and the New World since we know that there is a trade route from Sharlyan to Tural.
I think, but take this with a grain of salt, that they would retcon the lore quite a bit. From the females being rare, to being more of a 60-40, or something like that, it would still make the females be less in number, but not by such a drastic amount that we get horrified at the implications. And the original lore would be dismissed as inconclusive data since the information came after the Bozjan incident which wiped out almost the entire population, the ones who were spared were the people lucky enough to be far away from the explosion, or the ones who were conscripted by the Garleans. As such very few females, if any got away safely.

[ejunniim]

The problem though is less the Garleans hunting down in fear of primal summonings and more along the lines of the Bozja Incident catching probably 90-100% of the Bozjan Hrothgal population in the blast turning the place into the mostly barren wasteland it is today.

Yup, your point makes sense too! I'd like to jump into Bozja to refresh my memories a bit, and if I don't get trampled by a red chocobo along the way...
However, I would find it important to note that the campaign to conquer Bozjans began long before the Incident: as far as can remember, about half a century ago, in terms of present. It terribly inconvenient that we are floating in a time bubble, but working with what we have, ah
But, after all, we have every right to hope for a significant expansion of the lore when Hrothladys comes, as Viera's boys did; ultimately, they received an explanation for their appearance, and quite understandable, given what happened in Dalmasca.
For a brief moment, I even had the crazy idea that Noah might have deliberately turned a blind eye to the refugee movements, since his plan involved (SPOILER!!! reating a new state for Bozja, not turning it into a province). But came to the conclusion that it was too complex, and should have been revealed with Zadnor's storyline in that case, rather than just being put into the description. However, story can always be corrected *sigh*

[Nureus]

Yup, your point makes sense too! I'd like to jump into Bozja to refresh my memories a bit, and if I don't get trampled by a red chocobo along the way...
However, I would find it important to note that the campaign to conquer Bozjans began long before the Incident: as far as can remember, about half a century ago, in terms of present. It terribly inconvenient that we are floating in a time bubble, but working with what we have, ah

Ok, yeah I had to do a bit more digging since I know the Bojza Incident was even mentioned in 1.0's story but I didn't know that Bojza was subjected for around 15 years before that point and thought that it happened sooner in the subjection period of the area. I don't think the 20 years of conflict before the subjection would of had as big of an impact on the Hrothgal population but if the Garleans could be driven by fear of primal summonings 15 years is quite a long time to go on witch hunts.

I think, but take this with a grain of salt, that they would retcon the lore quite a bit. From the females being rare, to being more of a 60-40, or something like that, it would still make the females be less in number, but not by such a drastic amount that we get horrified at the implications. And the original lore would be dismissed as inconclusive data since the information came after the Bozjan incident which wiped out almost the entire population, the ones who were spared were the people lucky enough to be far away from the explosion, or the ones who were conscripted by the Garleans. As such very few females, if any got away safely.

Yeah thinking about it I think they'll have to rewrite the lore and call the "Old" lore more along the lines of what other places speculated due to the lack of information. The reason why I'm leaning this way is because of some quick math that I did and yeah horrific is probably the right word to use for the situation. So doing some estimating since we don't have a hard number of how low "Staggeringly" is so I'm going to ballpark 5% is female since that I feel is a Staggeringly low number. So just to sustain their numbers with this ratio each Hrothgal would need to have around 20 children and keep in mind this is just to sustain not to grow while in a period with unchanged mortality ratings or migrations. Which I'm assuming the Hrothgals in power would be somewhat or completely exempt from this due to the issues having kids would have over their duties to lead meaning the other Hrothgals would have to pick up that slack. Changing this to somewhere in the ballpark of 30% would make this so much more believable and less horrific.

[Pip_Chick]

Was in a sapphic mood. So here are some Female Hrothgar lovers!

[Pip_Chick]

Random thought, do you think that they will give female Hrothgar the same fur patterns as the males, or different ones? Seeing as they gave male Viera different ears than female Viera?

[Allegor]

The fur texture in Ms Legs' thighs would suggest they'd have different patterns than males, but there's also the chance she simply has a custom model, which wouldn't be surprising given how she's likely a msq protagonist like Yugiri or Lyse.