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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    No worries, I won't take offense if you explain it to me like I'm 5. And that makes it so everyone in the thread can understand it and take part as well. Win-win.
    So may I assume then you have no savage or ulti experience? In that case upping the healing requirement to the point of forcing both healers to spend a majority of their GCDs on heals is not feasable for several reasons. Firstly we have to take stock of what the healer experience currently looks like and that is even with extremely heavy healing in current fights you still have the vast majority of GCDs be on damage. As I said earlier the top healing log for p12s phase 1 has 78% of its GCDs spent on damage spells. That was with the other healer doing basically nothing. To solve this issue you would have to roughly double the damage output to get even in the first place to have a place to start at. But we would still be roughly at a spot where both healers are using around ~75% of their damage GCDs on dps spells.

    From there you would have to probably roughly double the healing requirement again however there are big issues with that solution.
    • Situations where something goes wrong will straight up be unrecoverable. If you need both healers to constantly be healing to even survive without something going awry then every time a healer dies it's going to be an instant wipe.
    • Healers would become more and more stationary as many GCD heals have cast times meaning mechanical complexity for healers would plummet hard.
    • Even if 50% of GCDs will be required for healing, the other half is still going to be boring nuke spam.

    What you are asking for is essentially permanent harrowing hell, a mechanic from p10s that requires heal spam when not solved by tank LB3. This is doable as a one time mechanic in a fight, not as a permanent state of being.
    Additionally, as of now getting people to full health can happen very quickly. This theoretical higher healing requirement would have it that raidwides are going out sheer constantly. Which will make rezzing so much less safe that there will be a real threat that every mechanic becomes a body check mechanic, something the current harder content is already being under heavy critique for.
    Making aoe healing slow will then just shift the healing role into a near stationary heal spam machine. In general the mana cost would have be nearly nullified as spamming GCD heals right now is only possible in extremely limited capacity.

    This also does nothing to adress healers being extremely simplified in any normal mode content. DPS retain most of their job complexity in normal mode content, Tanks a little less so. Healers have no job complexity in normal mode content at all. So we must ask do we only want to solve the healer engagement issues for harder content or for all content? Upping the healing requirement in normal content is largely out of question with how easy SE wants dungeons, trials and normal raids to be. If they did, many players who arent as good at the game would be hard locked out of choosing the role at all.

    Upping the dps complexity on healers would not have that effect. We know this because many people who play DPS in dungeons and the likes are honestly not good at the game already. They massively drift a lot of cooldowns or forget to use some at all. The content is still perfectly clearable. This would remain with healers having a more complex dps rotation simply because normal modes generally have no enrages (or extremely lenient ones). Someone in your team will probably silently grumble or mald on talesfromDF but that's about it.
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    Last edited by Saraide; 11-11-2023 at 07:46 AM. Reason: length
    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao