Please more housing wards soon. And no more FC/Private Hybrid.

[Stormpeaks]

This lottery housing Fluff... needs to stop

People asked for that if you remember, because "muh fairness"

"we want everyone to be on an equal level"

well now we got it, you dont have the placard bots anymore but you have to wait 5 days for people to bid, 4 days for results, which is basically 3 chances to win a month

Instead of 10-20 bots et a placard, you "fight" for an ""equal"" bid agaisnt hundreds of people, how fun and exciting, basically a waiting simulator but not for a few hours at a placard, but for 9 days, such excitement !

[Solowing]

This lottery housing Fluff... needs to stop

the players got exactly what they asked for. They even made it more fair by making the players commit to bidding on a house so only one bid at time can be placed, so what's the problem here? As long as you hit the Gil requirement to buy a house, anybody can participate. Wasn't that the point? Didn't players want to level the playing field by not losing out to some guy who has 16 hours a day to wait for a house to open up?

What about the concerns about the players who can't play every day or travel some days and can't access the game sometimes? The way the system is currently set is considerate for that group of people because you just need to be on one day out of a week to make a bid, you wait a week, you have three four days to claim.

Those players who wanted these people to be accounted for got their wish, the ramifications of that were competition for a plot went way up and it takes longer to win a plot. The days of walking up to a plot and just claiming it are done, and the players were the one who asked for that to happen

[Stormpeaks]

the players got exactly what they asked for. They even made it more fair by making the players commit to bidding on a house, so what's the problem here? As long as you hit the Gill requirement to buy a house you're fine anybody can participate. Wasn't that the point? Didn't players want to level the playing field by not losing out to some guy who has 16 hours a day to wait for a house to open up?

What about the concerns about the players who can't play every day or travel some days and can't access the game sometimes? The way the system is currently set is considerate for that group of people because you just need to be on one day out of a week to make a bid, you wait a week, you have three four days to claim.

Those players who wanted these people to be accounted for got their wish, the ramifications of that were competition with way up and it takes longer to win a plot. The days of walking up to a plot and just claiming it are done, and the players were the one who asked for that to happen

tbf I wish I could disagree, people yelled and screamed about how bots were "breaking housing" and how lottery would be the "savior of housing"

they got their wish, now they get to be in a waiting period 9 days every cycle so that everyone get their "fair" chance at getting a house, which also massively increased the amount of bids, they basically asked to keep losing over and over again and have a very minimal chance of winning, they really doomed themsleves with that one, but not only themselves, everyone with it too.

[Yuniko]

i'm glad we can see eye to eye on things.

[Yuniko]

the players got exactly what they asked for. They even made it more fair by making the players commit to bidding on a house so only one bid at time can be placed, so what's the problem here? As long as you hit the Gil requirement to buy a house, anybody can participate. Wasn't that the point? Didn't players want to level the playing field by not losing out to some guy who has 16 hours a day to wait for a house to open up?

What about the concerns about the players who can't play every day or travel some days and can't access the game sometimes? The way the system is currently set is considerate for that group of people because you just need to be on one day out of a week to make a bid, you wait a week, you have three four days to claim.

Those players who wanted these people to be accounted for got their wish, the ramifications of that were competition for a plot went way up and it takes longer to win a plot. The days of walking up to a plot and just claiming it are done, and the players were the one who asked for that to happen

Like i'm not arguing, nor naysaying. I just said it needed to stop.

I was not part of those who screamed and yelled at bots. But the lottery is not better either.

I just wish we could find a happy medium amongst everything. NO im not arguing or fighting... please don't think that. I just want a happy medium between evryone.

[Solowing]

Like i'm not arguing, nor naysaying. I just said it needed to stop.

I was not part of those who screamed and yelled at bots. But the lottery is not better either.

I just wish we could find a happy medium amongst everything. NO im not arguing or fighting... please don't think that. I just want a happy medium between evryone.

If everyone having an equal chance of getting a house isnt a happy medium, then what is?

IMO this was the happy medium.

Just some thought that a lottery would increase their chance, but didn't account for the increased accessibility working against them.

[Reinha]

The days of walking up to a plot and just claiming it are done, and the players were the one who asked for that to happen

Yup, here are just a few threads from 2020-2021 asking for a lottery. It's not an exaggeration to say players asked for this. It was a very common request back then.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...House-Raffling
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ate-of-Housing
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ighted-Lottery
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...isition-Method
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...m-be-that-hard
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...s-Up-For-Grabs
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-be-fixed

People were told it would be harder to win in a lottery but they didn't listen, because they wanted a fair system. To now ask for improved odds at the expense of others is hypocrisy at its finest and that's why I'm against any changes that would make things less fair. If people wanted better odds for themselves they should have opposed the lottery when it mattered.

[Yuniko]

Yup, here are just a few threads from 2020-2021 asking for a lottery. It's not an exaggeration to say players asked for this. It was a very common request back then.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...House-Raffling
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ate-of-Housing
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ighted-Lottery
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...isition-Method
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...m-be-that-hard
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...s-Up-For-Grabs
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-be-fixed

People were told it would be harder to win in a lottery but they didn't listen, because they wanted a fair system. To now ask for improved odds at the expense of others is hypocrisy at its finest and that's why I'm against any changes that would make things less fair. If people wanted better odds for themselves they should have opposed the lottery when it mattered.

Oh i agree. I'm not saying im against ANY of this. I'm just saying it's abit laughable. I'm not attacking anyone. All i said was this lottery is getting out of hand, and sure people did ask for this, so we got what we deserved. I'll just be quiet then. :/ sorry for expressing my toughts.

[Eraden]

Yup, here are just a few threads from 2020-2021 asking for a lottery. It's not an exaggeration to say players asked for this. It was a very common request back then.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...House-Raffling
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ate-of-Housing
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ighted-Lottery
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...isition-Method
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...m-be-that-hard
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...s-Up-For-Grabs
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ds-to-be-fixed

People were told it would be harder to win in a lottery but they didn't listen, because they wanted a fair system. To now ask for improved odds at the expense of others is hypocrisy at its finest and that's why I'm against any changes that would make things less fair. If people wanted better odds for themselves they should have opposed the lottery when it mattered.

Mao was never interested in better odds for Mao. Mao was ONLY interested in fair system. Is why Mao was and still is strong proponent for Lottery. Mao knew Mao chances would be worse with Lottery and Mao accepted that. Mao wanted fair system for ALL.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Oh i agree. I'm not saying im against ANY of this. I'm just saying it's abit laughable. I'm not attacking anyone. All i said was this lottery is getting out of hand, and sure people did ask for this, so we got what we deserved. I'll just be quiet then. :/ sorry for expressing my toughts.

*hugs* don’t be sorry! It’s only natural to be frustrated at a frustrating system.

Just because it’s marginally better than placard clicking, by not forcing you to camp a plot anymore, it’s still just as nerve-wracking. I wasn’t posting on the forums back then, so I definitely didn’t ask for this. I’m still salty instant-relo is gone. Especially since relo and demo are the only things that open up new supply.

As long as there aren’t enough houses for players there’s always going to be some people left out. I’m happy with the plot I got (after 9 months of trying!), but my husband is still trying for an Empy large, and the odds of that happening are about 1/150 if past lottos are any indication.

Have you heard about the Housing Mirage? They’re supposed to be working on letting us change the interior layouts of the houses. So in theory, you could have a small outside with a medium or large inside. If that would be something you could be happy with, try to find yourself a nice small, and then you can make the inside bigger in about a year or so if you can’t luck into a medium or large by then!