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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So me having a large house invalidates my opinion

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    Well, when you're saying "not everyone can have a large house and they need to accept it" but you already own one, then yes, somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Well, when you're saying "not everyone can have a large house and they need to accept it" but you already own one, then yes, somewhat.
    That's a ridiculous take but sure, you do you lol.

    What I said is not any less true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Not everyone is meant to get a large house.

    It really is that simple.
    I hate to be that guy but: This. Pretty Much.

    Trying to buy FC Large myself. Not at the end my tether yet... It's quite alright to plan and scout and wait for new round to start. Just in case the fortune aint kicking. And save save save more gil. I have more than one ticked in the game for what little edge it gives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Well, when you're saying "not everyone can have a large house and they need to accept it" but you already own one, then yes, somewhat.
    People really need to get out of the habit of "Well, you got X, so your opinions as a person are worthless, since you have X".

    That can easily be altered to fit any narrative and be just as infuriating. Should we not care about your opinion because you play a Hyur? Or because you're a black mage? Where does it end?

    ALL opinions are valid and allowed to be shared. Promote discussion, not "no you're wrong cuz wrong" responses.

    Either way, back on topic.. Them owning a large actually validates their opinion in this regard. Because they know the system. They've used it to get where they are. Why would that be a bad thing?
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    Because it comes off as “I got mine, so everything is just fine the way it is.” I know some people see housing as some sort of prestige system, even though it’s ALL RNG, and the scarcity doesn’t help that. But really, we’re all paying a sub here, we should all have the same access to content. Which is one big reason I’d like to see an instanced housing system. It’s the only real way to meet the demand, not only for a house in general on many servers, but also for the preferred size. And those in the wards with larges can still feel special while those who just want a bigger decorating space can be satisfied.

    Maybe the new plan for the housing mirage will fulfill that need for a lot of people, so long as they don’t care if the inside of their house matches the outside. But it still doesn’t address the overall supply issue. A small exterior with a large interior is great, provided you can actually win a small in the first place!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    People really need to get out of the habit of "Well, you got X, so your opinions as a person are worthless, since you have X".
    Uh, because being a Hyur or a Black Mage has nothing to do with your views on the current housing situation regarding large houses, whereas owning one very much does? Do I genuinely need to spell that out? Or the issues with self-interest, bias, or the basic inherent hypocrisy in telling someone to accept a faulty status quo that they do not actually have to deal with? You can share whatever opinion you like, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's worth the (virtual) paper it's written on, as devastating as that might be for some to hear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Because it comes off as “I got mine, so everything is just fine the way it is.” I know some people see housing as some sort of prestige system, even though it’s ALL RNG, and the scarcity doesn’t help that. But really, we’re all paying a sub here, we should all have the same access to content.
    This is quite literally what it comes down to, or worse, "I feel special for having something limited in supply, so it should stay that way." It's such a ridiculously selfish and boomer-like mentality to have, and there's no valid reason to protest or justify things the way they are. As you say, we're all in the same boat here, and it's a fault of the way housing has been implemented in the first place that it's a matter of luck who benefits, and it absolutely should be fixed.

    These self-serving arguments attempting to disguise themselves as tremulous logic have grown so boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Uh, because being a Hyur or a Black Mage has nothing to do with your views on the current housing situation regarding large houses, whereas owning one very much does? Do I genuinely need to spell that out? Or the issues with self-interest, bias, or the basic inherent hypocrisy in telling someone to accept a faulty status quo that they do not actually have to deal with? You can share whatever opinion you like, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's worth the (virtual) paper it's written on, as devastating as that might be for some to hear.



    This is quite literally what it comes down to, or worse, "I feel special for having something limited in supply, so it should stay that way." It's such a ridiculously selfish and boomer-like mentality to have, and there's no valid reason to protest or justify things the way they are. As you say, we're all in the same boat here, and it's a fault of the way housing has been implemented in the first place that it's a matter of luck who benefits, and it absolutely should be fixed.

    These self-serving arguments attempting to disguise themselves as tremulous logic have grown so boring.
    I like how not only you but Khrys as well just imply that I have gotten a large for free, as if I have not worked for it so somehow I would not understand the situation

    a bit wild but ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I like how not only you but Khrys as well just imply that I have gotten a large for free, as if I have not worked for it so somehow I would not understand the situation

    a bit wild but ok
    Uh... nowhere did we imply that. The fact is that there are thousands just like you, who have the same basic ability and funds to get the housing they want, who have worked just as long, if not longer than you, and continue to work to try to obtain one, who do not deserve to be continuously screwed over over by a terrible housing system that should be accessible to everyone and badly needs fixing because you had the pure fortune of your attempt paying off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Uh... nowhere did we imply that. The fact is that there are thousands just like you, who have the same basic ability and funds to get the housing they want, who have worked just as long, if not longer than you, and continue to work to try to obtain one, who do not deserve to be continuously screwed over over by a terrible housing system that should be accessible to everyone and badly needs fixing because you had the pure fortune of your attempt paying off.
    And how exactly does me having a large house change ANYTHING to my opinion on it ? I had the exact same opinion before, and I'll always have that opinion, larges are a luxury, period, not everyone is meant to have one.

    It's amazing how me reaching my goal of having a large suddenly invalidates any struggle I might have had to get such large, thus my opinion just becomes invalid

    what the hell lol
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 10-24-2023 at 04:07 AM.

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    This'll likely be a distant problem if the stuff they have their eyes set on work out the way they want. It's only a matter of time.
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