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Thread: New Job: Viper

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    There is already precedent for variety of stowed item positions. If we don’t care about the draw/sheathing animation, it can be anywhere really.

    For in game example, there are giant frypans (and maybe other DoH tools) that “stow” on the back, but magically resize and shift position when drawn. All DoH are drawn/stowed like PLD swords, regardless of where they actually stow.

    I doubt we’ll see it, but just saying it wouldn’t be outside of what we’ve seen.
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    On god I'm kicking every Kirito viper I see in DF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    On god I'm kicking every Kirito viper I see in DF
    Should’ve been here in ARR when NIN was released and Syrcus Tower was filled with bottom-of-the-hate-list Uchihas.
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    Meh squared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenociderOmega View Post
    The name reminds me of maplestory.
    In KR version the pirate class is called Viper and NA verison its called Corsair.
    Almost exactly true. Corsair in KMS was still called Cosair, it was Buccaneer that was called Viper in Korean Maplestory. Honestly this is where I think that the naming convention is an asian cultural thing because KMS's Viper leaned heavy into Pirates, Dragon Ball, and Dragons more than it did Serpents and Vipers. And since the FFXIV team is much more keen on keeping a majority of stuff the same between regions, it's probably why we didn't get it changed to something more Western based like what they did for Maplestory
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    Last edited by Rychu; 10-24-2023 at 02:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Does he come to vipe my vindows?
    First season episode of GI Joe: The Viper is coming.

    F.L.A.K.s, stacked sandbags and several armed Joes surround the firehouse, and an elderly man walks toward the Joes and asks for Mr. Barbecue. The Joe hops down from the seat of a F.L.A.K. and introduces himself. The elderly man tells him: "I am the Viper. I've come to vipe you vindows. Five-seventy five an hour. I start on West corner, top floor first."
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    So far I am absolutely in love with the new Viper job. I like the look of the armor which looks very fitting for a adventurer as well as the weapon type that reminds me of Zidane who is one of my all-time favourite FF characters.

    I can only hope that Viper plays differently from Ninja because I am not a huge fan of that job due to its Ninjutsu mechanic. How the Job plays, however, is something we will only be able to tell as soon as SE releases more gameplay footage.

    The only thing I am a little disappointed in is that it does not look like that the swords will get scabbards. Which is a problem that many sword based jobs in FF14 have, so I will overlook it. Still a bit disappointing considering that Samurais got them.
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    Scabbards really limit the design potential of the weapon, I'm glad they don't have them so we can get a variety of shapes and sizes. SAM weapons all look nearly identical unless you are zoomed in for a glamour shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rychu View Post
    Almost exactly true. Corsair in KMS was still called Cosair, it was Buccaneer that was called Viper in Korean Maplestory. Honestly this is where I think that the naming convention is an asian cultural thing because KMS's Viper leaned heavy into Pirates, Dragon Ball, and Dragons more than it did Serpents and Vipers. And since the FFXIV team is much more keen on keeping a majority of stuff the same between regions, it's probably why we didn't get it changed to something more Western based like what they did for Maplestory
    Are we aware of any other examples of this in Korean/Japanese MMOs?

    I am really struggling to accept this as an archetype, especially the Viper name, but if it exists across several games other than MapleStory I could understand it a bit better.

    I think my biggest disappointment is that we already did the whole "fang" thing with Sage. I had to dig pretty deep into FF lore to feel like the nouliths were justified as a weapon. I just think it displays a lack of creativity to push out another snake-themed job, especially when we only get two of these every couple of years.
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    Last edited by SeverianLyonesse; 10-24-2023 at 03:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    Are we aware of any other examples of this in Korean/Japanese MMOs?

    I am really struggling to accept this as an archetype, especially the Viper name, but if it exists across several games other than MapleStory I could understand it a bit better.
    I would have loved to have searched for other examples for you, because I am curious myself....butttttt now every search about MMOs with jobs named viper is full of the announcement of Viper for XIV. oh well
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