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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    A much fairer comparison would be to Sage
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    Ren Thras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    A much fairer comparison would be to Sage
    Agreed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASTGVJLBX14

    Diagnosis.
    Dosis III.
    Eukrasian Diagnosis.
    Toxicon II.

    That's literally all they did. "flashy lasers" aside, we didn't know what they were, but this was effectively Physic, Broil, Adlo, and kinda-sorta Ruin 2/Energy Drain (take your pick). Imagine a "SCH reveal trailer" that just had them doing their /bstance, casting Physic, Broil, Adlo, and Energy Drain, then their /vpose.

    Someone else (Mikey, I think) did a comparison to RPR and GNB (I think?) showing they did very little as well. GNB did their 1 and 3 combo steps, Superbolide, and Heart of Stone, they just did more dynamic angles and "instant replays" of parts of the attack or broke up the attacks, like GNB's -3 [which has 4 swipes] making it look like separate attacks or whatnot. But other than the "more dynamic angles and instant replay", the GNB trailer didn't show any more than the VIP one has, and the SGE one showed less. No Eukrasia Dosis, and no oGCD heals, CD or Addersgall based. It didn't even show Kardia.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post

    Someone else (Mikey, I think) did a comparison to RPR and GNB (I think?) showing they did very little as well. GNB did their 1 and 3 combo steps, Superbolide, and Heart of Stone, they just did more dynamic angles and "instant replays" of parts of the attack or broke up the attacks, like GNB's -3 [which has 4 swipes] making it look like separate attacks or whatnot..
    Yes, GNB was only using 1 2 3 Bolide and Nebula.
    It looked very flashy because they interrupted GCDs midway to make the teaser more active.
    We didn't see Burst Strike or the Gnashing Fang combo which are the core of the GNB gameplay.

    Viper shows:
    4 GCDs using 2 swords
    1 oGCD swapping stance
    1 GCD using the staff sword
    1 oGCD (?) blue burst
    1 GCD Sky Mirage Dive

    Even if we take Reaper of example, all we had was a 1 2 3, Summon your avatar for 1 oGCD and the Enshroud followed by 1 GCD. This last GCD wasn't representative of the fast paced burst of the Reaper.
    We didn't had Gibbet & Gallows, Soul Slice, Death's design or the complete representation of Enshroud which are core elements of the RPR gameplay today. This will be the same for Viper.
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