Thoughts on Viper?

[Zolvolt]

Feels like pugilist got tired of punching and picked up swords, just initial trailer makes me meh about it, but we'll see when more info comes out.

Sometimes I want to get mad because it's kind of crazy how many people are jumping through hoops to be negative about the playstyle of a job when we have no idea what the playstyle is. Like let me remind you that dragoon animation videos from SE have previously featured the stun kick as a part of their rotation. You're not going to figure out whether this is similar to reaper or monk or anything from this video.

But then I remember that half of y'all were born with a brain that thinks cilantro tastes like soap and your opinions aren't really based in reality.

[Llynethil]

Sometimes I want to get mad because it's kind of crazy how many people are jumping through hoops to be negative about the playstyle of a job when we have no idea what the playstyle is. Like let me remind you that dragoon animation videos from SE have previously featured the stun kick as a part of their rotation. You're not going to figure out whether this is similar to reaper or monk or anything from this video.

But then I remember that half of y'all were born with a brain that thinks cilantro tastes like soap and your opinions aren't really based in reality.

"Feels like pugilist got tired of punching and picked up swords, just initial trailer makes me meh about it, but we'll see when more info comes out."

"just initial trailer makes me meh about it, but we'll see when more info comes out."

"but we'll see when more info comes out."

You literally just did what you accuse others of, you read the first part of what I said then jumped on conclusions.

[Zolvolt]

"Feels like pugilist got tired of punching and picked up swords, just initial trailer makes me meh about it, but we'll see when more info comes out."

"just initial trailer makes me meh about it, but we'll see when more info comes out."

"but we'll see when more info comes out."

You literally just did what you accuse others of, you read the first part of what I said then jumped on conclusions.

No I read your entire post. Nothing you said changes that you felt the job was similar to pugilist. I also mentioned multiple people complaining or making false comparisons, not just you. You were just the most recent at the time so you got the quote.

[Llynethil]

No I read your entire post. Nothing you said changes that you felt the job was similar to pugilist. I also mentioned multiple people complaining or making false comparisons, not just you. You were just the most recent at the time so you got the quote.

It's called a first impression and nothing wrong with that if you also realize like I did, and this is the part you didn't read 4 times already, "But we'll see when more info comes out"

[mallleable]

I was really hoping for corsair, but an original take for a job is a pleasant surprise! I can't wait to try it! I'm already hunting for glams for it!

[Shurrikhan]

I like it being "down to earth" (outside of the twinsword making no sense if you're going to use it with only one hand and do nothing with the other anyways) but... where's the actual unique stuff, "merely practical" though it may be? Poisons? Cables? Flintlock? Whatever it may be, it feels like we've learned nothing more about this than that it's the umpteenth sword job and its GCD takes a little less of an eternity than most jobs'.

At best we've got some stab-stabs to go with Rogue's swish-swish and an aura that unlocks some manner of pretty generic finisher.

You'd think there'd actually be more of substance revealed here.



Edit: Super nitpicky, but does the DW idle stance seem a bit more... off (absent of intent, exposed, and/or none too fluid, etc.) than most jobs' to anyone else?

And has anything explained why adding so much additional weight to the back of a weapon --to the point of likely making its balance worse-- would give it mightier strikes than being able to better leverage body-weight? It still seems to be used with one hand... with that freed up hand also not being used for anything else anyways? ???


Anywho, so far it looks like the kind of class/job I'd really enjoy, but... feeling pretty starved on actual info here when compared to the likes of the RDM reveal, etc.

[LilimoLimomo]

I enjoyed the Viper reveal because it gave me a big laugh with my spouse, especially when they announced the name. Randomly saying "VIPERRRR!" is the joke of the day in my household.

I'm personally surprised that they decided to announce the class without showing off anything that would really wow players. All they revealed was the name and the fact that there are two swords that become a swallow; maybe that's enough to excite some players, but it made me think that the class's design isn't anywhere close to finished so they didn't have anything else they were ready to commit to. Maybe it'll be fun to play once it's in our hands, but this feels like the most lackluster reveal of an FF14 class I've ever seen.

Also genuinely surprised that they didn't reveal Green Mage when they've already indicated in-game that it's the caster DPS. But maybe that class is even less finished than Viper?

[Tracewood]

I enjoyed the Viper reveal because it gave me a big laugh with my spouse, especially when they announced the name. Randomly saying "VIPERRRR!" is the joke of the day in my household.

I'm personally surprised that they decided to announce the class without showing off anything that would really wow players. All they revealed was the name and the fact that there are two swords that become a swallow; maybe that's enough to excite some players, but it made me think that the class's design isn't anywhere close to finished so they didn't have anything else they were ready to commit to. Maybe it'll be fun to play once it's in our hands, but this feels like the most lackluster reveal of an FF14 class I've ever seen.

Also genuinely surprised that they didn't reveal Green Mage when they've already indicated in-game that it's the caster DPS. But maybe that class is even less finished than Viper?

Think they wanted to reveal more of the trailer, and if they didn't reveal Viper it would still confuse people, especially now since it's the poster job for DawnTrail.
Like Gunbreaker they gave us a teaser video, we didn't learn much else until near release if memory servers. Hope we can do more besides slashy-slash, still I'm down for this because I'm big into dual wielding swords in many games.

[Supersnow845]

The problem is squares job design is so stale does anyone think there is a legit chance there is going to be something massively out of left field here

I’d say the chances are above 90% that we are going to get a 1-2-3 twinblade is the burst you can do once per minute based on gauge but there is a personal damage buff (blue aura) every 2 minutes that allows for a longer twinblade phase and a 2 minute CD you can do to increase the gauge by 50 with a few random oGCD’s for flavour

There is simply too many jobs for the small design team so at this point we are basically getting shades of the same classes rehashed over and over again, out of 5 melee we already really only have 2 (NIN/RPR, builder spenders and SAM/DRG/MNK, long loopers), when was the last time a class was introduced that actually upset the design philosophies of the game…………6.0 MNK if you stretched it if not……..maybe RDM

[Payadopa]

To me it looks a bit bland. But I said the same about SAM and then started liking it once I did some leveling. The aesthetics are nice, though. But please be a bit more evolved then "build gauge up and then use". I miss job complexity. ;(