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Thread: New Job: Viper

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    Very glad to finally have a scouting job that isn't Ninja.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    I don't know how you can say it's unfinished when we have only seen a small amount of actions.

    Regardless though, the next time we will see anything new will be in the bench mark, you can often see a new action in there and after that, the job action trailer for Dawntrail, which will show alot more.
    To support this even further, remember GNB teaser, 1 2 3, 120s and Bolide.
    Or RPR teaser, 1 2 3, gauge spender, enshroud, gcd under enshroud.

    I feel like many are disliking the job just because it's not corsair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    To support this even further, remember GNB teaser, 1 2 3, 120s and Bolide.
    Or RPR teaser, 1 2 3, gauge spender, enshroud, gcd under enshroud.

    I feel like many are disliking the job just because it's not corsair.
    More likely it's just all they know how to do. Some of these people joined the forums back in like 2013/2014, so you'd think they'd know how this works by now, but I guess it's hard.
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    I didn't come in having any specific ideas about the new job other than what we were directly told. This is exactly why I don't try to speculate about what things are going to be. You get the results you see here, everyone complaining that it's not what they already decided it was going to be. Extremely common thing in this game. Something new gets announced, all the details aren't revealed, everyone gets their own idea of what it's going to be, then gets angry when it isn't that. How about people just wait and see? It's not hard.

    Twin swords is my kind of weapon though, I will certainly be trying out this job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I feel like many are disliking the job just because it's not corsair.
    This exactly my sentiment. People don't like it because they wanted something else. It was similar to Dancer where people thought it was going to be a new healer but it turned out to be a DPS instead (which lead to the whole revealing what roles the new jobs will be).

    The best thing to do is to always keep yourself at a neutral stance until the reveal as, if you get too hyped for something that hasn't been revealed, you are going to be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palladiamors View Post
    The audience didn't seem super hyped about it. I think the general expectation was on Corsair and people were a wee bit disappointed with the reveal.

    I'm... okay with it. I did want a dual sword job. Could have done without double saber mode but eh, I'll deal.
    as they was not for any thing for the most parts. to be honest what's there to be hyped for? more of the same and 2 new jobs that will change nothing out side of a skin. like the viper one. what will NEW it being to the game play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolgarth View Post
    I'm really disappointed by this reveal. They had a lot of other options. Another dual blade class for scouting gear... Lol, it's creatively bankrupt. The magic dps better be mind blowing or I think after eight years it might be time to cancel my sub. Possibly sad day.
    I feel like it would have already been more interesting if the weapon premise was reversed.
    If Viper had a Twinblade by default and then certain attacks split it into 2 smaller blades. Then again, I suppose a Scouting job should feel more light-weight so maybe that's why it is this way.

    Yoshi-P stated that this job was in response to all of the requests for another dual-wielding job. Were there really that many people that wanted another double-blade job? People have been asking for Thief since the dawn of time, but I don't think that's what they meant lol.

    I do hope they lean into the Twinblade aspect more, and hopefully the "ancient power" has some interesting interactions aside from just glowing blue and being stronger.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 10-21-2023 at 09:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    This exactly my sentiment. People don't like it because they wanted something else. It was similar to Dancer where people thought it was going to be a new healer but it turned out to be a DPS instead (which lead to the whole revealing what roles the new jobs will be).

    The best thing to do is to always keep yourself at a neutral stance until the reveal as, if you get too hyped for something that hasn't been revealed, you are going to be disappointed.
    I honestly didn't really care about corsair in the slightest. Wasn't invested because I'm not a melee dps type of person. But this? Meh, still apathetic. Someone said the name while I was going after an S rank earlier and my initial reaction was "What the hell kind of name is viper?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I don't mind the name. It's new both to FF and to the 'classic RPG' archetypical nomenclatures, but it can grow with time. It's as specific as Gunbreaker, for example. The obvious acronym VIP sounds cool lol.

    The trailer... er, they barely showed anything. The 1-2-3 combo and an enhanced hit of it. It's hard to be excited just with that... I thought that it would be cool if the job could switch sword stances at will, instead of being something like enshroud.
    well for this they need to do some REAL WORK and we all know they are not interested in that.
    jobs getting more and more bland so even the most brain dead can play them good. it will be basic 1-2-3 combo + some miter BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    To support this even further, remember GNB teaser, 1 2 3, 120s and Bolide.
    Or RPR teaser, 1 2 3, gauge spender, enshroud, gcd under enshroud.

    I feel like many are disliking the job just because it's not corsair.
    Here's my 2 cents, as someone who didn't care either way what the job would be: GNB, DNC, RPR, and even SGE (perhaps even SAM and RDM, didn't bother looking) had their reveal trailers shot from different, dynamic angles, and even in movement - even used some emotes for extra flare. By contrast, Viper (VPR?) "cameraman" felt quite stale, like he's just... standing there, hitting a glorified dummy rather than fighting something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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