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    I don't really understand why it needed the blue mode for it's burst window, instead of the 'glaive form' being it's burst. Cos of that, my expectations are low, and I expect it to be very similar to RPR, with dualwield being basic GCDs, glaive being SoulSlice/the AOE one/Gallows/Gibbet/Guillotine, and bluemode being Enshroud
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    I don't mind the name. It's new both to FF and to the 'classic RPG' archetypical nomenclatures, but it can grow with time. It's as specific as Gunbreaker, for example. The obvious acronym VIP sounds cool lol.

    The trailer... er, they barely showed anything. The 1-2-3 combo and an enhanced hit of it. It's hard to be excited just with that... I thought that it would be cool if the job could switch sword stances at will, instead of being something like enshroud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I don't mind the name. It's new both to FF and to the 'classic RPG' archetypical nomenclatures, but it can grow with time. It's as specific as Gunbreaker, for example. The obvious acronym VIP sounds cool lol.

    The trailer... er, they barely showed anything. The 1-2-3 combo and an enhanced hit of it. It's hard to be excited just with that... I thought that it would be cool if the job could switch sword stances at will, instead of being something like enshroud.
    All of the teasers are very basic. Dancer's only showed off its 1-2 and 3-4, not even Standard Step was revealed then nevermind, it was its 1-2 and 3-4 and Standard. We'll get more hints when the Benchmark drops, and then a more telling showcase during the job actions trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    All of the teasers are very basic. Dancer's only showed off its 1-2 and 3-4, not even Standard Step was revealed then nevermind, it was its 1-2 and 3-4 and Standard. We'll get more hints when the Benchmark drops, and then a more telling showcase during the job actions trailer.
    Yeah, I know... but since this is an actually brand new XIV job, I feel they should've included one 'big hit' from the repertoire to enhance the hype. Usually we are already excited just for the fact that it's a classic FF job, and not the case this time.

    One thing for sure is that dual-wielding swords is a bit of a letdown for me, because we have already a lot of this weapon silhouette, and even a big chunk of Ninja weapons already looks like shortswords. I hoped for a different offhand, like a whip... But that impression can change depending on how much the other sword mode is played upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Yeah, I know... but since this is an actually brand new XIV job, I feel they should've included one 'big hit' from the repertoire to enhance the hype. Usually we are already excited just for the fact that it's a classic FF job, and not the case this time.

    One thing for sure is that dual-wielding swords is a bit of a letdown for me, because we have already a lot of this weapon silhouette, and even a big chunk of Ninja weapons already looks like shortswords. I hoped for a different offhand, like a whip... But that impression can change depending on how much the other sword mode is played upon.
    I'dve made the same argument for Sage's teaser last time since it was basically an entirely new concept, but that was fairly boring as well. Though that's pretty accurate to how Sage turned out unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I don't mind the name. It's new both to FF and to the 'classic RPG' archetypical nomenclatures, but it can grow with time. It's as specific as Gunbreaker, for example. The obvious acronym VIP sounds cool lol.

    The trailer... er, they barely showed anything. The 1-2-3 combo and an enhanced hit of it. It's hard to be excited just with that... I thought that it would be cool if the job could switch sword stances at will, instead of being something like enshroud.
    well for this they need to do some REAL WORK and we all know they are not interested in that.
    jobs getting more and more bland so even the most brain dead can play them good. it will be basic 1-2-3 combo + some miter BS.
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    I wanted a neat sword + pistol job, not brainlet ninja that plays like reaper.
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    Looked pretty unfinished.

    Hopefully they will show more on it before DT launches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Looked pretty unfinished.

    Hopefully they will show more on it before DT launches.
    I don't know how you can say it's unfinished when we have only seen a small amount of actions.

    Regardless though, the next time we will see anything new will be in the bench mark, you can often see a new action in there and after that, the job action trailer for Dawntrail, which will show alot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    I don't know how you can say it's unfinished when we have only seen a small amount of actions.
    That's exactly why it comes off as unfinished. Comparing it to the Reaper reveal is like night and day.

    I won't be surprised if that blue aura ends up just being a placeholder.
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