Alliance Raid Now iLvl Locked, Why??

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Honestly, knowing how far a player can theoretically do in order to get to the path of least resistance, I wouldn't be surprised if making an FT account only to queue together with that alt to guarantee a CT pop isn't so far fetched. Finishing ARR 2.0 isn't very long when you skip everything & do so with your main account's assistance.

To prevent overleveling? Simply bail that alt out upon entering lol.

[Erzaa]

Honestly, knowing how far a player can theoretically do in order to get to the path of least resistance, I wouldn't be surprised if making an FT account only to queue together with that alt to guarantee a CT pop isn't so far fetched. Finishing ARR 2.0 isn't very long when you skip everything & do so with your main account's assistance.

To prevent overleveling? Simply bail that alt out upon entering lol.

But then you wouldn't receive any rewards for the run, what reason would there be for this?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

But then you wouldn't receive any rewards for the run, what reason would there be for this?

That's the point: to allow their main account to get into CT.

[Erzaa]

That's the point: to allow their main account to get into CT.

Oh! I see, alright. Players are logging in multiple accounts and then leaving the alt, just so their main gets an easy run?

[PyurBlue]

You've already defeated the sense of progression by overleveling well past your MSQ point lol. This is comical. The salt in this thread only proves how correct this change was.

The MSQ is level synced for all instanced content. Outleveling it won't change much in the sense of progression. Gear is more important, and works just as well no matter how fast you level, so what you said isn't really true.

The entire ilvl check got added specifically because people would rather strip off their gear and get CT every day for roulettes than have a chance at any other duty in a roulette. How can you even ask this question?

You ignored the part about not unlocking anything but CT which allows people to control the outcome just as much as before.

So now they can force CT by overgearing instead of stripping, as long as they don't unlock any other raid. There's literally no reason to stay at 50 to force CT. Anyone can be 60 and force CT, 70 and force CT, 80 and force CT, 90 and force CT.

I don't see how this helps your argument at all, or how it disproves the idea that ilvl checks should be used in tandem with MSQ progression and unlocked Alliance Roulette checks.

Exactly.

It's almost like someone:

just ignores 90% of what a post says and inserts their own ideas into it to respond to the post.

[VerdeLuck]

Oh! I see, alright. Players are logging in multiple accounts and then leaving the alt, just so their main gets an easy run?

People are already doing that, having one person from friends or an FC on a low level alt, and the others queueing with the alt to get into a guaranteed CT.

[PyurBlue]

Not sure how you are equating that to no loss in progression as all "level syncing" is doing is disabling usuable buttons from your hotbar. The progression is the leveling friend as the msq is majority OUTSIDE of instanced content.

Also the gear progression is there. Just buy gear on the marketboard as you level up! Its simple and easy :].

I'm not sure what you mean here. Level sync effectively removes overleveling when synced, which is more than removing skills. This means that the value of gear isn't diminished so a leveled player can still progress through gear normally.

People are already doing that, having one person from friends or an FC on a low level alt, and the others queueing with the alt to get into a guaranteed CT.

Yes, so the ilvl change isn't even good at keeping people from forcing CT. All the more reason to find a real solution.

[TomsYoungerBro]

I'm not sure what you mean here. Level sync effectively removes overleveling when synced, which is more than removing skills. This means that the value of gear isn't diminished so a leveled player can still progress through gear normally.

Except for a large majority of the MSQ that is out of instance, but you didn't read that part surely ? I'm sure the progression feels great when you smack around level 60ish mobs in quests, and then go into an instanced piece of content struggling with bosses of similar level. The progression is clearly broken once you start maxing out way early lmao. And again, gear progression can be handled "normally" outside the need of MSQ through the market board. Your arguments are illogical and overall non-issues.

[angienessyo]

People are already doing that, having one person from friends or an FC on a low level alt, and the others queueing with the alt to get into a guaranteed CT.

People are putting more effort into avoiding other raids than they could have spent doing Orbonne or something and that's hilarious.

[Raven2014]

People are putting more effort into avoiding other raids than they could have spent doing Orbonne or something and that's hilarious.

eh ... I've never done it but I'm pretty sure the process described by VerdeLuck (+CT completion time) still gonna take significant less time than an Orbonne run, so not sure why you would find it hilarious? That just sounds like someone take a 5min detour to avoid a 20min traffic jam, sound legit to me.