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I mean see you here in 6 months when you're still correlating people's views on FFXIV with "excusing genocide" while simultaneously claiming you are not pushing weird, personal moral agendas over a video game.
Then why do we fight the Garleans? The scions are very selective on who is allowed to murder and who is not.

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The lack of self awareness is
incredible. I must have really a nerve.
I think i hit yours. That's why you lashed out immediately.

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And I will have a great time because I actually think it's interesting to hear other perspectives.
Then why do you seem to lash out on anyone? Why be mad about a differing time travel interpretation?

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I think the Elpis visit is an alternate timeline, it's not that big of a deal. And yes I think part of why it is alternate is because we already existed there. It's a shame you are ignoring because I'd be really curious to know why SHB/post SHB hinted this so heavily and why you think they didn't show Azem before the arc ended.
I never said any of this. If we are Azem and Azem already existed there than wouldn't that mean we do in fact exist twice? Just twice in one time.

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Also I didn't launch any ad hominem at you-- at least nothing on the scale of questioning your mental health and imply you have a personality disorder. I said your signature gives an indicator of your perception and it does-- what do you mean when is the last time you enjoyed the forums? The only time I don't enjoy them is when I meet people like you, who interpret differing opinions as censorship.
"I didn't ad hominem" followed by ad hominem.

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Censorship is
I'm just tired of all of the posts of people like you being full of insults. If you can't take them, maybe don't serve them all the time.

asking people not to say anything and not post, I hope that helps. I don't even regard terms like "reductive" as insulting, maybe that's where a disconnect exists between us. You perceive it as a aggression when it's not. I just feel like expecting bulletproof consistency across a 10 year long MMORPG with the insane level of quests XIV has (between MSQ, beast tribe, side quests, raids, etc) is unrealistic. It isn't like "woops things don't make sense sometimes give up all reasonable expectations for story quality".[/QUOTE]


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People acting like Venat knew definitively what the sundering would result in are either trolling or didn't understand the scene.
That's your interpretation. Considering you are making up things that are never stated (like your alternate timeline theory) it's quite strange to not give others some leeway to interpret a scene that only shows a character walking and looking angry.

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Yes she knew she was sundering the world and it would result in the loss of their perfect forms and paradise but it's not like she had a full view of the next 1000 years+ and how every reflection would develop on am anthropolical or political level. She also had no real choice because a. No one would have believed her story and b. Summoning Zodiark is itself purposeful and deliberate genocide. Case closed.
Genocide excuses genocide then?

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People hand waving it away as some diabolical plan are just mad that EW is the most critically acclaimed expansion of the entire XIV msq AND had the most concurrent players the game will likely ever see.
Sounds like "people that oppose me are just mad because FFXIV:ENDWALKER(TM) was the bestest thing ever!!! Mega succesfull!!1!" by the way

Expecting the highly praised MSQ to make at least the most basic sense is not too much to ask for. People also do that for tv shows. Some of those ran for 10+ years. Back in the day even with 22 episodes per season, one season a year.