Please include Leveling PvP Gear beyond Lv.60

[Atelier-Bagur]

I don't think you comprehended a single word of what was said. The game's growth in the past few years has been more than expected and plenty of players are asking for tons of features and QOL updates by the dozens. Developers can't implement each and every suggestion just because.

I dont even get where youre going with this angle. Wheres the negative side to wanting more useful rewards into an extra piece of content.

By your logic, you want everyone to just shut up and not provide suggestions because the game is too big somehow? Get real.

[Squishi]

I dont even get where youre going with this angle. Wheres the negative side to wanting more useful rewards into an extra piece of content.

By your logic, you want everyone to just shut up and not provide suggestions because the game is too big somehow? Get real.

Quite the slippery slope you got there lol. No part of what I said implies people shouldn't give their input. Everyone has ideas and suggestions, its just that yours isn't as helpful as you think.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Quite the slippery slope you got there lol. No part of what I said implies people shouldn't give their input. Everyone has ideas and suggestions, its just that yours isn't as helpful as you think.

My darlings please

I want you to tell me whats are the downsides, the cons about them continuing on adding leveled sets via the PvP Wolf Marks system. I'm want to hear you and Ritsuko's counter points about whats wrong about it.

Because so far, the only response from both of you has been and I quote "There's plenty of other features needed to be worked on by the developers--we're lucky they're still putting as much love into PVP rewards as they do now since it was pretty dead for a while. Even just adding recolors of existing sets at levels 70-90 is space, time, and effort better used elsewhere"

By this statement, you'd have no problem if they continued supporting PvP with more rewards, especially gear rewards that serve useful for new players that go through the MSQ casually and want to dip their feet into PvP while upgrading their character, without completing being locked off from buying better gear for their level just because they have yet to get to those areas. But you then contradict yourself by saying its wasted time and effort anyway. You make no sense and it seems you just dont care.

This is the same mentality that most likely was why the Variant/Criterion rewards suck. Because in the devs's mind, they thought it was just "good enough".

[Squishi]

Again, I don't think you fully understand anyone's responses who disagree with you. If you're going to have a condescending attitude at least have reading comprehension to back it up.

Plenty of people have given you counterpoints and responses you're asking for. I'm not contradicting myself at all, but if I said "its a waste of time and effort" verbatim feel free to point it out. The Variant and Criterion dungeons are a completely separate issue and again, you're really reaching and assuming a lot here.

Btw, if you want to prove a point, being rude and condescending is not gonna convince anyone to listen to you. Everyone else here's been plenty amicable to you, but if reading is a challenge for you, respect is probably wayyyyy too difficult for you to understand as well.

[Boblawblah]

Everyone else here's been plenty amicable to you, but if reading is a challenge for you, respect is probably wayyyyy too difficult for you to understand as well.

I'm going to assume you're not seeing it.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'm not contradicting myself at all, but if I said "its a waste of time and effort" verbatim feel free to point it out. The Variant and Criterion dungeons are a completely separate issue and again, you're really reaching and assuming a lot here.

The Wolf Marks still have plenty of use. If you're running around with it fully capped that's on you. The furniture, materia, ventures, etc are still very useful and used often, especially considering the furniture cannot be traded or sold on mb.

There's plenty of other features needed to be worked on by the developers--we're lucky they're still putting as much love into PVP rewards as they do now since it was pretty dead for a while. Even just adding recolors of existing sets at levels 70-90 is space, time, and effort better used elsewhere. You're arguing a very niche standpoint for new players for gear that won't be used for more than a day or two since leveling can be very fast.

Literally the first post from the previous page. Saying its just a waste of time isnt a compelling argument as you think it is. Because:

A. You didnt provide a better solution for what I proposed and
B. Considering how trivial the devs have been releasing current patch content, I'm very sure them adding basic set items (that can just even be recolors) will tax on those resources theyve been clearly using to their fullest.

And again you ignore the problem with the Alliance Roulette locking out newer players due to required high ilv. Its simply that you just dont care and just only want to argue for the sake of arguing.

[Squishi]

Waste of time =/= effort is better used elsewhere, also look up what verbatim means. If they add it, cool. Odds are low though since it really won't impact much as, again, its been stated several times here: that there's plenty of options for new and alt character players alike in regards to gear.

A. You ask for counterpoints, but given them you suddenly need a solution? Do you replace a light bulb that still works? Make up your mind.
B. If you're unhappy with patch content being released you're welcome to openly talk about it as you've done here, but do understand people are as likely to agree with you as they are to disagree. Ultimately its not really anything you can control, and it is very easy to criticize the devs and the decisions they make from an outsider perspective with no context on the state of their development process, and just thinking servers and the games they host have endless memory to utilize.

And *again* newer players have plenty of resources to use when it comes to increasing iLvl. Quite a few of said resources have been listed already by plenty of people. Said resources I've seen countless others use when new to the game--not once has the issue of Alliance Raids requiring them to have gear they have no current means of obtaining been anything I've seen or heard. The "solution" you're proposing is simply reviving remnants from early days of the game where PVP gear sets and PVP levels were separate from regular job levels and gear. Very clearly a system that's been discarded for good reason, but the gear is still there for those who want to use it.