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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I just feel like the opportunity to give more useful rewards is there with PvP.

    In fact Im only saying this because Im currently having a friend go through the game for the first time and hes playing it daily at his own pace, getting close to finishing base ARR and lo and behold, the poor sucker is at Lv.60 at his job.

    So Ive been recommending him to upgrade his gear via the lv.50/60 PvP sets as he plays through the msq and what a surprise, hes been enjoying it.

    But since they stopped presenting more leveled sets, he'll soon run into the problem with queuing for Alliance roulettes because he wont have the ilv needed for it due to his level.

    This is why this kind of thing matters in an MMO. Progression is king and I just want for newer players to be able to upgrade their characters naturally without having to rush through the story or having to needless cough up a bunch of gil at the MB for basic sets.

    The answer is right there with PvP but the devs went backwards with only making Lv.1 glam rewards.

    Imo glam gear should be Trophy Crystals while useful leveling gear should be bought with Wolf Marks. The rewards system needs to be tweaked a bit.
    By the time he is able to access lv 60 alliance raids he will have access to lv 60 poetics gear. The alliance raids of a given expansion aren't accessible until you complete the initial MSQ of that expansion.

    Him using lv 60 gear for duties below 60 result in it being synced down so he's not gaining anything from it. If anything it could be making him weaker since all effects from any materia slotted in the gear are negated when gear is synced down. The final poetics gear of the expansion will generally have better stats than the gear found in the first 2 leveling duties of the following expansion so basically it carries you though the first half of the expansions initial MSQ.

    If anything IMO I think they need to strip the stats off the gear with actual level requirements and drop them to lv 1 so the PvP vendors are selling glamour and cosmetics exclusively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    By the time he is able to access lv 60 alliance raids he will have access to lv 60 poetics gear. The alliance raids of a given expansion aren't accessible until you complete the initial MSQ of that expansion.

    Him using lv 60 gear for duties below 60 result in it being synced down so he's not gaining anything from it. If anything it could be making him weaker since all effects from any materia slotted in the gear are negated when gear is synced down. The final poetics gear of the expansion will generally have better stats than the gear found in the first 2 leveling duties of the following expansion so basically it carries you though the first half of the expansions initial MSQ.

    If anything IMO I think they need to strip the stats off the gear with actual level requirements and drop them to lv 1 so the PvP vendors are selling glamour and cosmetics exclusively.
    You fail to understand the actual alliance roulette ilv issue. It heavily correlates to your current job level, not your msq progression. You have a lot of players who easily get overleveled that isnt correlated to the msq's level. Like the example above I pointed out, my friend is at Lv.60 before finishing ARR; which will lock him out from doing alliance roulettes because the game will expect him to have ilv gear that goes with Lv.60 or above. Thankfully the PvP Beastlord and Twelve Sets are lv.60 which will allow him to run that roulette. This level discrepency is only going to get worse afterwards because he enjoys doing roulettes for leveling and he'll most likely be around 70-ish or so before they step foot into Heavensward. And this scenario isnt uncommon as you can tell from the other thread about the current issue with the Alliance Roulette change.

    Even then, this is all just to add in more rewards into a system anyway. I would also like if they included some new leveling sets via Grand Company Seals. I just dont like the idea of the devs stop giving more ways of upgrading your character besides tomestones, raids and crafting. It'd be neat if you can get some gear rewards from doing PvP or Fates or even Tribal Quests. The lv.1 Glams wont matter much to many of us whom already have our characters maxed out anyway so I dont understand why some people are getting defensive about me asking for stat gear in this content, its not even as if I'm asking them to stop making lv.1 glam sets either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You fail to understand the actual alliance roulette ilv issue. It heavily correlates to your current job level, not your msq progression. You have a lot of players who easily get overleveled that isnt correlated to the msq's level. Like the example above I pointed out, my friend is at Lv.60 before finishing ARR; which will lock him out from doing alliance roulettes because the game will expect him to have ilv gear that goes with Lv.60 or above. Thankfully the PvP Beastlord and Twelve Sets are lv.60 which will allow him to run that roulette. This level discrepency is only going to get worse afterwards because he enjoys doing roulettes for leveling and he'll most likely be around 70-ish or so before they step foot into Heavensward. And this scenario isnt uncommon as you can tell from the other thread about the current issue with the Alliance Roulette change.

    Even then, this is all just to add in more rewards into a system anyway. I would also like if they included some new leveling sets via Grand Company Seals. I just dont like the idea of the devs stop giving more ways of upgrading your character besides tomestones, raids and crafting. It'd be neat if you can get some gear rewards from doing PvP or Fates or even Tribal Quests. The lv.1 Glams wont matter much to many of us whom already have our characters maxed out anyway so I dont understand why some people are getting defensive about me asking for stat gear in this content, its not even as if I'm asking them to stop making lv.1 glam sets either.
    And why does he need to spam Alliance roulette when he needs neither the exp nor the gear for progression purposes? I'd recommend they progress and complete content before trying to farm glamour plates. There's also the market board to resolve this issue unless they're sitting on the free trial. If they're on a retail copy they should have at least 1-2 million gil by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    And why does he need to spam Alliance roulette when he needs neither the exp nor the gear for progression purposes? I'd recommend they progress and complete content before trying to farm glamour plates. There's also the market board to resolve this issue unless they're sitting on the free trial. If they're on a retail copy they should have at least 1-2 million gil by now.
    You seem to have some weird personal issue for going against adding more rewards to already existing systems.

    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You seem to have some weird personal issue for going against adding more rewards to already existing systems.

    Why?
    I simply find all the supposed logic you're trying to toss out there flawed at best and stated why I see it that way.

    You're the one that seems to be taking personal issue with a proper discussion by displaying an openly hostile response while trying to play yourself off as some kind of victim.
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