What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Atelier-Bagur]

Except they can. It is not something they did often because I assume they valued privacy, but it was Venat herself that taught us to channel our Echo ability in Elpis. Our abilities are all things that different Ancients could do naturally. We have them because we are broken versions of that race made into something new.

Even then, this doesnt matter since we wind up explaining everything to the trio anyway.

[Nayukhuut]

Even then, this doesnt matter since we wind up explaining everything to the trio anyway.

Aye, I know, but it would have been helpful if Venat had been kind enough to actually share the danger that was coming with her own race. Sadly she seemed pretty dead set on "my way is the only way."

[Atelier-Bagur]

Aye, I know, but it would have been helpful if Venat had been kind enough to actually share the danger that was coming with her own race. Sadly she seemed pretty dead set on "my way is the only way."

They gave some acknowledgment to it after escaping Ktsis, she says this

"we cannot allow the report that set this calamity in motion to become common knowledge. Were the masses to learn the fates of the other stars, I fear the situation would spiral out of control"

And considering how the Ancients act and behave, it probably wouldnt have ended well. Whether this is a good reason or not is up to the player but then we wouldnt have a story if everything was just resolved lol

[Nayukhuut]

They gave some acknowledgment to it after escaping Ktsis, she says this

"we cannot allow the report that set this calamity in motion to become common knowledge. Were the masses to learn the fates of the other stars, I fear the situation would spiral out of control"

And considering how the Ancients act and behave, it probably wouldnt have ended well. Whether this is a good reason or not is up to the player but then we wouldnt have a story if everything was just resolved lol

She could have at least told the world's leaders. She knew as much about what was happening about the situation as Hermes did at the end, and Hermes wasn't the only person who knew about Dynamis. Instead she basically just decided to go with her plan and then got annoyed when people didn't take her on blind faith.

When did this happen? I'm looking through the journal, but as often happens lately it's rather unhelpful, and watching through all the cut scenes again will take time.

When you are looking into the past to see what happened with Hermes and Meteion. When he sends them off to go see the universe.

[Atelier-Bagur]

She could have at least told the world's leaders. She knew as much about what was happening about the situation as Hermes did at the end, and Hermes wasn't the only person who knew about Dynamis. Instead she basically just decided to go with her plan and then got annoyed when people didn't take her on blind faith.

Hypothetically isnt her telling them immediately after Ktsis also on blind faith?

[Nayukhuut]

Hypothetically isnt her telling them immediately after Ktsis also on blind faith?

No, that would be giving your race a fighting chance. They could have looked into her story and actually verified the facts. What Venat did was basically go around and expect everyone to follow her because she was convinced her way was correct, and she gave no one the truth of what was happening. She just expected them to agree with her.

[Atelier-Bagur]

No, that would be giving your race a fighting chance. They could have looked into her story and actually verified the facts. What Venat did was basically go around and expect everyone to follow her because she was convinced her way was correct, and she gave no one the truth of what was happening. She just expected them to agree with her.

True, but I think its more so that she realizes as well as the audience that the Ancients's way of life and civilization of eternal paradise would eventually be its downfall, because of Meteion's report confirming that many other civilizations strived for the same paradise as they did but wound up destroyed. The game shows to us the flaws in their system through both the MSQ and quests in Elpis and Dream Amaraout. There's also the factor that the WoL being there and the events and experiences he/she shared to Venat privately convinced her there was some worth and hope for the star's future due to mankind having to learn to adapt and grow from what we consider the everyday struggles of life. Most of these stories in jrpgs are always written in criticism of the concept of a "utopia" so its most likely the reason why the writers wanted to make Venat come off that way as a Prometheus like figure; which goes with both her character in this game and in FFXII where the Venat the Occurria rebelled against her own kind to give mankind true freedom.