Give DJ/ Roleplay events their own tab

[Stormpeaks]

Where's the Twitch stream? The Mare syncshell? The horrendous 10' 300-lbs (all chest) modbeasts playing as a brand new race and with a full-body tattoo? The club's Discord voice chat where everyone's playing other games, such as Star Wars Galaxy, as opposed to FFXIV? I suppose installing an entire framework for add-ons, sex mods, IoT integration (don't ask), and playing your obligatory Other Game while not even touching FFXIV are quintessential aspects of Final Fantasy XIV?

Oh wait, those are "optional", right? We don't need those. So how do you enjoy standing in a quiet room with everyone wearing the exact same Level 1 outfit and doing the exact same /beesknees dance--while never saying a word for hours? You like the feeling of total silence? Little red AFK chairs too? How is that comparable to a "social" MMO at all?

And if you don't know what I'm referring to, then you have no authority on the subject matter. This isn't about what you think it is.

And yet none of these "issues" have any impact on you whatsoever.

Crazy isnt it ?

I see this comment a lot and I'm not sure if the commenters are genuinely not understanding the complaint being made or if they're being deliberately obtuse to strawman the point.

As I assume most people complaining about this would agree, I do not care at all what people do in private. I think the make believe clubs are cringeworthy and ERP is pathetic, but I can just choose not to visit those places. Normally that would be that, to each their own. The problem is that the people running those venues shove it in everyone else's face as hard as they possibly can. The main two things pissing everyone else off are:

1. Shout chat is absolutely flooded with nonstop club ad spam, most using multiple separate shouts for one ad and repeating them frequently. You can't just blacklist them because they're all hired help that get rotated out constantly. It doesn't just happen in cities either, I've seen these ads pop up out in the middle of nowhere. "Just turn off shout chat" is a ridiculous solution. Why should I have to restrict myself from a useful game feature because other people are abusing it?

2. The "Other" tab is nigh unusable for anything that isn't a club because every venue insists on posting 5+ ads. I once saw TEN ADS for the same venue. It completely drowns out everything else which is why the formerly numerous fun and original actual roleplaying venues have almost all died out or moved to discords.

Both of these issues could be solved easily. Limit your shout ads to one short and sweet message sent once every hour or two and limit the PF ads to one listing per club. Do that and nobody would have a problem.

Again if someone wants to spend their evenings beating off to catgirls, more power to you, I do not care. Just stop making it everyone else's problem.

1. Shout chat is absolutely flooded with nonstop club ad spam, most using multiple separate shouts for one ad and repeating them frequently. You can't just blacklist them because they're all hired help that get rotated out constantly. It doesn't just happen in cities either, I've seen these ads pop up out in the middle of nowhere. "Just turn off shout chat" is a ridiculous solution. Why should I have to restrict myself from a useful game feature because other people are abusing it?

Turn shouts off, it's that simple. If they could only advertise only one time per hour, i'd be useless to even advertise because you wouldnt have much advertising power, and on a very tiny amount of people.

Yes, turning shouts off IS a solution, and it has no big impact at all, it literally doesnt matter.

2. The "Other" tab is nigh unusable for anything that isn't a club because every venue insists on posting 5+ ads. I once saw TEN ADS for the same venue. It completely drowns out everything else which is why the formerly numerous fun and original actual roleplaying venues have almost all died out or moved to discords.

You mean they went where they were literally told to advertise in ? So what's the problem ? That's where they should be, in the other category, if they are under dungeon or raids etc, report them.

Again if someone wants to spend their evenings beating off to catgirls, more power to you, I do not care. Just stop making it everyone else's problem.

You are choosing to make it your problem.

[Bonoki]

And yet none of these "issues" have any impact on you whatsoever.

Crazy isnt it ?





Turn shouts off, it's that simple. If they could only advertise only one time per hour, i'd be useless to even advertise because you wouldnt have much advertising power, and on a very tiny amount of people.

Yes, turning shouts off IS a solution, and it has no big impact at all, it literally doesnt matter.



You mean they went where they were literally told to advertise in ? So what's the problem ? That's where they should be, in the other category, if they are under dungeon or raids etc, report them.



You are choosing to make it your problem.

How to completely dismiss a problem by pretending leaving people alone makes it not a problem without solving or addressing literally anything. Solution fixed guys! JUST DONT CARE! -Stormpeak's advice on everything.

[Stormpeaks]

How to completely dismiss a problem by pretending leaving people alone makes it not a problem without solving or addressing literally anything. Solution fixed guys! JUST DONT CARE! -Stormpeak's advice on everything.

So what's your solution then ? We ban all the venues and drive these people away, and then what ? Then the game only has the raiders/crafters left that eventually end up quitting or taking break for multiple months since there's barely any content in the game ? And then what ?

[Lunaxia]

The only thing you have to do is remove shouts if they annoy you, there is nothing else, the other tab is.. well.. for other things, which venues fit in perfectly.

It also fits a host of other in-game uses perfectly, which get drowned out amidst the ad spam.

A "special" tab just for venues could be nice, but it also fits in "other" as it is.

Which was the point of the thread.

Yes, turning shouts off IS a solution, and it has no big impact at all, it literally doesnt matter..

...you do know, just because you say something it isn't a problem, doesn't actually mean that it isn't to other people?

Most of the rebuttals in this thread are pretty much just wilful denials, to be honest.

And then what ?

Then maybe they'll actually do something to fix the problems that caused these issues to run riot in the first place, lol...

Well, that might be taking a bit far - I'm not going to put all the game's woes at their door. But the devs could certainly do with seeing the game as lifeless as it feels to anyone who isn't a Viera in a bunny costume.

If they want to grasp onto that demographic and continue looking the other way though, they really do need to allocate a separate section for them.