Give DJ/ Roleplay events their own tab

[LewdCoffee]

If something bothered me THAT much, I'd just turn off shout. Guess how many venues I see advertised? None.

So then I have to remove the shit posting and memes just so I personally am spared from door to door energy? What about hunts? Why are people allowed to actually chat spam which mind you is against the TOS and if I don't like it I have to go through personal efforts to make a whole new tab that I have to double check if I want to engage in shout chat or hunting.

I don’t care about PF: they have their own tab and I never look at that tab.

I wish there was something similar for the in game chat though. As soon as you step in a city at certain hours your chatbox fills non stop with people advertising venues and posting lengthy messages containing several paragraphs. Oh and gambling laws apply when real money is involved, not a fake in game currency in a fantasy world (you can’t buy gil, at least not the legit way) and there’s even the Gold Saucer.

Some of their practces in order to get people into their bars however is rather suspect don't you think? You're telling me a place with no menu whatso ever, maybe only 5 or 6 people coming in can sustain a 50mil giveaway every other day? Not saying all places do that but I'm sure DJ's and RMT work partially together in order to get that sweet sweet twitch money. I respect the houstle but man as I said before, it's like approving door to door sales man.


Again, I'm not saying to ban RMT. As people have said. Due to SE's inactivty it's part of the game, gone are the days of it being a pve game and now it's a pvp game of edating for people with questionable mental health. I just want them to have another tab, that way I don't have to use a feature (blacklist) to silence spammers and actually use them against people that are annoying or problematic, especially when it comes to eventual cross DC PF.

[Bonoki]

Hot Take: The moment that gil and giveaways are involved you are no longer role playing. You are a business/community/content creator, ect. You are now incentivizing non-RPers to come to your 'venue'.

[Stormpeaks]

Hot Take: The moment that gil and giveaways are involved you are no longer role playing. You are a business/community/content creator, ect. You are now incentivizing non-RPers to come to your 'venue'.

Giveaways sure, gamble not so much, gamble can be done literally in Limsa. You dont need a venue for that.

Also I am pretty sure most of those "giveaways" are rigged.

Still doesnt mean venues/gamba shouldnt exist.

[Avoidy]

Feels like every month we have this discussion and it's always the same people who can't help but go out of their way to look at shit that bothers them. I think dance clubs are cringe too. Know how I dealt with it? I didn't look at the "other" tab and I didn't go to cringe clubs. This shit is invisible if you don't go searching for it. Like someone else said, the moment it's not contained there, yeah obviously report them. But this OP is calling for a containment channel that already exists.
Also lol at the idea that CBU3 would crack down on the only people who even stay subbed when the game's dead as hell 9 months out of the year or whatever. I wish they would crack down on RP venues just to watch them walk it all back a week later when they realized how hard they just shot themselves in the foot.

[Hasrat]

Forums: "This game is getting too solo-friendly, this is supposed to be an MMO!"

Also Forums: "This game is too social, shut down all this interaction now."

[Nokuushi]

Is anybody actually surprised? Majority of people who are into this, are modders and love Mare. There is high chance someone were masturbating to their screen looking at YOUR character. That's the FF14 community. If you want to RP something normal, without mods, you're in minority and shuned upon. SE either needs to take the axe, because if not, I will keep saying they allow CP in the game. With Lala mods.

[Jokerz_93]

What is the problem with all of that exactly?
I think this is happening on NA servers because on EU we have some few of these ads and they are totally harmless.
Also, I remember I went on a casino before ShB ended with some old friends of mine and we had a good time there. We…I mean I lost a couple of millions but, you know it is how a casino works, still it was a nice “two-nights-break” from savaging.

I really don’t get the issue here, unless a player is bombed with private /tells from randoms advertising their own clubs, in which way are these players affecting others?
Players also can redirect the /shout and the /yell to another tab in their ChatBox to keep everything more clean when they have to step into big cities.

I’m not an RP/ERP and as much as I would like to see more PF for progging/clearing contents I hardly find annoying these PFs clubs/nights/casino and whatsoever.
I think they just give more color to the game which it lacks of it.
It’s an MMO and, beside what are doing the E/RP community (as well as tue modding comm), the game itself doesn’t do much to aggregate and create events where players can hang out together, meet new people and socialising…and maybe this is not a missing part from the game side, rather how it is supposed to be, to let players build their own content in the way they like.

If gambling is something that concerns a player…well gambling exists in real life too, and unless a player is also an activist against this activity who fights night and day to see it got ridden from the world…well, they can go on with their lives and remember that this is a game.

If 18+ rated clubs is something that concerns a player…well 18+ web sites and clubs are a real thing too, and unless they are an activist to persecute morality and decency, fighting night and days to see those got ridden from the world…well they can go in with their lives and remember that even they had had their “funny time” at least once too(if not, it’d explain a couple of things).

Maybe I’m missing something…

[Hasrat]

Maybe I’m missing something…

A lot of it is just population volume, I'd imagine. As well as EU having some level of unofficial language segregation, so to speak.

Allow me to explain.

What many of these complaints are missing is the core root cause of all of this. There's no stopping the socialization in the game, and shout ads (and ads in general) have always been present.

What nobody has mentioned yet is that the increase in prevalence can be tracked to the introduction of World Visit, and later, Data Center travel.

Prior to these features, all ads, and all such events, were largely relegated to a player's own world. You'd see much more of it on populated servers, and you'd see much less on the low-pop servers.

With the travel restrictions lifted, that also opened the floodgates on events and advertising. Players are no longer simply hopping from zone to zone to shout, they will proceed to jump to a new world to repeat, and can even jump data centers for more spread. Depending on your home world, you might not even see any ads for anything on your server, or even on your data center. But you will still see ads, because they can advertise everywhere now.

So, EU gets less of it by having fewer data centers with fewer worlds, and (just guessing here) having more languages spread out, making the world-hopping ads less useful if your audience is largely already congregated in one place.

So if anyone really wants to shut down these venues and events, what they really need to be doing is trying to close down World Visit and Data Center Travel.
(also suggests devs are right to not want to open regional travel and allow this to spread even further... if they ever allow NA/EU cross play, you can bet you'll be seeing more of it)

[LewdCoffee]

What is the problem with all of that exactly?
I think this is happening on NA servers because on EU we have some few of these ads and they are totally harmless.

From the way your describing it it definitely sounds more like an NA issue compared to an EU. Wonder why culturally Eu sounds like they have some decency.
Again, no problem with people doing content they want to do. I want to do content that I can get mad at while progging, frustrated and eventually upon clearing be proud of my accomplishment. While EW hasn't really done much to delivery in that category I know I'm in the minority.
Currently during peak hours, at least on primal you can see about 70+ pfs in the other category. About half or 3/4 of them are going to be duplicates of about the same 10 clubs.
If it was one advertisement for one place at a time, while annoying I would be fine with. It's the spam of it. The spam in pf ontop of the regularly 10 minute shout announcement in major cities for the clubs.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Clearly we need to clean up the others tab so more people can see those guys selling feet pics.