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    ^ I mean if anything the 6.0 MSQ vindicated venat even if she is still highly flawed

    The source is the only planet in the universe that still has life left on it and zodiarks barrier was failing, the ancients had zero alternatives, if Meteion had never been created then the ancients would have fallen to the same end as the last world in the dead ends, on the world where venat made her decision after zodiark had been created and still failed to stop the final days to the aether rich ancients there was zero alternative, Meteion was going to wipe the source of all life

    Venat is responsible for billions of deaths but is also the sole reason why there is even still life in the universe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    We were not and that is not canon, if you think it is, you didn't pay attention to 5.2 or 5.3 where we are told outright that the blessing of light is bestowed upon those who awaken to the echo specifically to prevent tempering, period. Furthermore, as Hydaelyn was created by she and a faction of people who were fearful of the tempering effects of Zodiark, the likelihood of her having done so is slim to none.

    Not quite. Putting aside that Venat was only using concern towards Zodiark as a convenient cover story to avoid actually sharing her true concerns as well as knowledge of exactly what was causing the Final Days...Tempering was never brought up in any capacity as their fear.

    It was also established prior to Endwalker that Tempering was prevented by the Echo rather than the Blessing of Light. We also see that an artificial variant can prevent it as well as seen with the Resonant. It's only with Endwalker - and a couple of other retcons that came with it - that the protection from Tempering is attributed to the Blessing of Light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Venat is responsible for billions of deaths but is also the sole reason why there is even still life in the universe
    She isn't the sole reason for that, so much as passing off the victories of other characters and factions as either her own work or that of the Sundered. For example the only reason Etheirys continued to exist both before and after the Sundering is due to Zodiark rather than Hydaelyn - something made clearer in the other localisations. For some reason the English localisation has a habit of obscuring that through framing something positive in a neutral or negative light or simply leaving out key bits of context altogether, as seen here:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...s-unacceptable

    There's a fair few interesting examples throughout that thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    ^ I mean if anything the 6.0 MSQ vindicated venat even if she is still highly flawed

    The source is the only planet in the universe that still has life left on it and zodiarks barrier was failing, the ancients had zero alternatives, if Meteion had never been created then the ancients would have fallen to the same end as the last world in the dead ends, on the world where venat made her decision after zodiark had been created and still failed to stop the final days to the aether rich ancients there was zero alternative, Meteion was going to wipe the source of all life

    Venat is responsible for billions of deaths but is also the sole reason why there is even still life in the universe
    There’s been a tracker on meteon since the mind wipe stuff and she knows that dynamis is a key factor and is a former convocation member. Surely leveraging any or all of those would be a simpler solution than annihilating her own people and culture? We already know timelines split based on the 8uc stuff. Which they didn’t have to write.
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