What's going on Frontlines?

[Valence]

I've never seen those premades being a real problem on my end, and I do feel people grossly inflate the so called advantage because they die to basics and think the first DRG with LB5 has to automatically be in a premade, else they wouldn't be able to pull that off, amaright?

Because the jobs that people are taking the most issue with are the ones that benefit the most from these things? Because they're busted...? You can't punish the DRG when they smash elusive jump to get out of grab range before they even come down from LB client-side for everyone else. You can't rush after them because you're going straight into a blender blob, and even if you did, they're 50%+ hp shield PLUS FL dmg reductions means you're basically doing nothing to them. You can't just guard the salted earth because of the DNC dashing up to punish you when you do. Sure, the DNC may die, but if that doesn't happen in time, that's a good chunk of an alliance dead.

The most you can do is dance just outside another team's range and try to bait them so they waste the burst, which rarely works anyway, because the dives are always deep into your team, not the very edge of it.

See, I can't relate because I punish DRGs regularly and I don't have server issues with them being away before I can do it (I totally agree that servers regularly shit the bed with that many players though, it's bad). If you want to punish DRGs coming out of LB reliably, just stun them there. They're literally in the middle of your team and will get nuked by everybody provided they don't leap away. If you want to secure this because people are slow, use a WAR or a MNK, or even a DRK. MNK has the best results, but they all hard counter it very well. Granted, you'll calm the DRG and get points for their BH5, but they'll still have turned the game by killing 5 people.

I don't disagree that this job is absolutely disgusting in how it can turn games in FLs though. But I still do feel a lot of people just don't know how to defend it.

DNC is a specific cases I have yet to see used well even by premades, but yeah, if it happens, that's bad. Imo it's the only thing that totally negates the defensive options people have against DRGs, and the reason we dont see it more is because people just don't need it, their victims don't even defend themselves.