PL Woes

[Xoo]

Its called reality. I know hardcore gamers are slightly disconnected with it, but the real world operates on one thing alone: money. And for an RPG, money comes from pleasing as many ppl as possible to generate as many sales as possible. The master of this was WoW, there's a reason it had so many subscribers. Even ppl who thought RPG's were for losers were playing WoW. My college football team? All WoW players. Almost everyone in my dorm played WoW. Even girls who never played videogames played WoW. WoW took all of those traditional RPG niche elements and said "fuck em".

Video games are an industry, which means they are a business. Once one business sets a new sales standard, the old standard is unacceptable to potential investors. Investors make or break your company, without investors you are going nowhere, and you are going bankrupt. This is how capitalism works. Now that new standards have been set, that becomes the goal. You need to explain to your investors how your product can duplicate or surpass the success of a WoW. If you fail you lose your job quite possibly. You lose your job you lose your livelihood.

The reality check is that its not about gamers its about consumers. Gamers *were* the only consumers so it just seemed like it was all about them. Thats not the case anymore. Some smart guy realized you can sell video games to anyone, not just nerds and niche fanboys. Thats why we have Wii, XBOX Kinect, stupid exercise games, watered down RPGs, etc etc. Why? Cuz that makes money. You don't make money, you are out of a job. So what am I advocating? I'm advocating everyone get connected to the real world, outside of RPG land, and recognize that every industry is run by sales. And sales are achieved by reaching as many ppl as possible. News Flash: RPG fans are in the minority.


EDIT: Honestly Peptaru that wasn't even my intention. Sorry it came across that way.

Oh, you mean we lost video games to the jocks, eh? Some corporate bastards learned that if they made stupid games for stupid people, they'd play them too! Still don't understand why I have to accept this 'reality'.

[Lux_Rayna]

Oh, you mean we lost video games to the jocks, eh? Some corporate bastards learned that if they made stupid games for stupid people, they'd play them too! Still don't understand why I have to accept this 'reality'.

Because you can't do anything about it lol. No matter how much you gripe, complain, protest, they will always cater to the largest demographic because thats what their job depends on. You don't have any choice but to accept it. We lost out, and until we become the majority we can't make games how we like them. WoW, Wii, those sorts of inventions/innovations changed *everything*.

[Xoo]

Because you can't do anything about it lol. No matter how much you gripe, complain, protest, they will always cater to the largest demographic because thats what their job depends on. You don't have any choice but to accept it. We lost out, and until we become the majority we can't make games how we like them. WoW, Wii, those sorts of inventions/innovations changed *everything*.

Yes there is. It's called a boycott. But that won't happen - people don't fight for anything any more. They just roll over and say, "Oh, there's nothing we can do..."

Sad deal.

[Lux_Rayna]

Yes there is. It's called a boycott. But that won't happen - people don't fight for anything any more. They just roll over and say, "Oh, there's nothing we can do..."

Sad deal.

If you're in the minority whats a boycott going to do? So what, 100 hardcore rpg enthusiasts refuse to buy SE products. Meanwhile 2 million idiots go out and buy the latest new fad. SE makes lots of money, and could care less about your boycott. This is what I mean by reality. How in the world is a small boycott going to affect their profits enough for them to bother with your demands? It won't, unless you were their only customer lol. But if they successfully make a game that appeals to the masses (which entails every feature you don't like), then a boycott by disgruntled RPG enthusiasts won't mean a damn thing to anyone.

There is nothing you can do. Its just the truth. Look at what happened with the occupy wall street protest. That reached many states, many countries, and still didn't accomplish much. So what if 5% of my subscribers throw a fit and say they wotn play anymore? Who cares? 95% of them are paying the bills, and new guys will just replace the old ones anyway. Thats the logic~

Its why I always laugh when ppl create quit threads, and threaten SE that they'll leave the game, because SE doesn't care. For every disgruntled player that leaves, an idiot will take his place. Ppl are under the impression that they matter, when in reality they are a decimal point in the grand scheme of things.

[Xoo]

If you're in the minority whats a boycott going to do? So what, 100 hardcore rpg enthusiasts refuse to buy SE products. Meanwhile 2 million idiots go out and buy the latest new fad. SE makes lots of money, and could care less about your boycott. This is what I mean by reality. How in the world is a small boycott going to affect their profits enough for them to bother with your demands? It won't, unless you were their only customer lol. But if they successfully make a game that appeals to the masses (which entails every feature you don't like), then a boycott by disgruntled RPG enthusiasts won't mean a damn thing to anyone.

There is nothing you can do. Its just the truth. Look at what happened with the occupy wall street protest. That reached many states, many countries, and still didn't accomplish much. So what if 5% of my subscribers throw a fit and say they wotn play anymore? Who cares? 95% of them are paying the bills, and new guys will just replace the old ones anyway. Thats the logic~

Its why I always laugh when ppl create quit threads, and threaten SE that they'll leave the game, because SE doesn't care. For every disgruntled player that leaves, an idiot will take his place. Ppl are under the impression that they matter, when in reality they are a decimal point in the grand scheme of things.

I suppose the recent server merge, the rumored 2.5m ragequit from a FF fan, etc., didn't shake SE at all. Shyeah.

[JakeRoon]

2.5m ragequit from a FF fan, etc., didn't shake SE at all. Shyeah.

it did....those 2.5m ragequitters are the guys who want all the features you hate.....remember? That's why they /ragequit

no jumping? /ragequit
no content finder /ragequit
no anything in any new mmo since 2004? /ragequit


I mean we already discussed this Xoo, the mmo style of play you want is DED , DEAD, kaput, fineato, and I asked you to join the revolution, but you continue to fight for the Resistance.....well....

Resistance ....is....futile....

We are mmorg, you will be assimilated. We will add your distinctiveness to our own.

[Xoo]

it did....those 2.5m ragequitters are the guys who want all the features you hate.....remember? That's why they /ragequit

no jumping? /ragequit
no content finder /ragequit
no anything in any new mmo since 2004? /ragequit


I mean we already discussed this Xoo, the mmo style of play you want is DED , DEAD, kaput, fineato, and I asked you to join the revolution, but you continue to fight for the Resistance.....well....

Resistance ....is....futile....

We are mmorg, you will be assimilated. We will add your distinctiveness to our own.

How does this make any sense at all? All the features I hate are still here, and those people are not! Jeez man.