Should the devs appologise to the community

[TaleraRistain]

You're no longer discussing my initial post and seem to simply be trying to further obscure my intent with unrelated elements that neither of us can possibly prove one way or the other.

That being said, given that they're in charge of the game if they truly believed that the current offerings in Endwalker would be enough 'staying power' then I think that'd be rather worrying. They've also deliberately gone out of their way to make every relic weapon step revolve around tomestones with no attempt to tie it to any of the new content.

Now who's moving the goalposts? Where would they have any data that something wouldn't jive with the playerbase unless they put it out there and got feedback and participation numbers on it? These forums cry every day about how 4 man content needs to be harder. What would tell the developers that Criterion would be so badly received when that's a constant request from the community? In one of the recent interviews where Eureka was mentioned, I got the impression they didn't think was going to be nearly as divisive as it was.

And I don't like tomes for relics but they're doing what they've always done. You had ARR and people didn't fully like that. They tweaked it some for HW. They completely changed the format for SB. They tweaked it some again for ShB. And now they've massively changed the format again. They don't know until they release something how it's going to be reacted to.

And as you said in the first part of what I quoted, neither of us can prove their intent with things one way or another. But only one of us keeps accusing them of deliberately leaving things out instead of trying new things like they've always done.

[Theodric]

Now who's moving the goalposts? Where would they have any data that something wouldn't jive with the playerbase unless they put it out there and got feedback and participation numbers on it? These forums cry every day about how 4 man content needs to be harder. What would tell the developers that Criterion would be so badly received when that's a constant request from the community? In one of the recent interviews where Eureka was mentioned, I got the impression they didn't think was going to be nearly as divisive as it was.

And I don't like tomes for relics but they're doing what they've always done. You had ARR and people didn't fully like that. They tweaked it some for HW. They completely changed the format for SB. They tweaked it some again for ShB. And now they've massively changed the format again. They don't know until they release something how it's going to be reacted to.

And as you said in the first part of what I quoted, neither of us can prove their intent with things one way or another. But only one of us keeps accusing them of deliberately leaving things out instead of trying new things like they've always done.

I'm not moving the goalposts. Once again, you're implying that I claimed intent on behalf of the development team. I did not. You took a post of mine - in response to another poster attempting to brush off concerns about the lack of content with staying power - and attempted to portray it as something completely different.

The back and forth since has involved you attempting to lead the 'discussion' in a completely different direction altogether.

It doesn't hugely matter to me what they did or did not intend. What matters to me is that Endwalker is woefully lacking in terms of content with staying power, the development team are doubling down on content without staying power in the expansion's patch cycle and the vast majority of people I play the game with are either taking a break or have quit altogether due to having very little to engage with compared to previous expansions.