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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    I don't know where you got that 1 player was doing this, but based on a quick look there are 2 players posting items. They're in the same FC, and likely working together. I looked around EU, and both their names are on the gear.
    That is one and the same Player.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    That is one and the same Player.
    What proof do you have that they are the same player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    What proof do you have that they are the same player?
    Why would Player A sell Items of Player B and Player B Items of Player A in their Retainers?
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    That's not proof. Most likely what is happening, they're putting their crafted items in the FC chest so their alts can access the items. When the alt takes the items out of the FC chest, they grab the first 10 or so items. The alt isn't looking at the signature, just the item picture/name.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    That's not proof. Most likely what is happening, they're putting their crafted items in the FC chest so their alts can access the items. When the alt takes the items out of the FC chest, they grab the first 10 or so items. The alt isn't looking at the signature, just the item picture/name.
    That is Bullshit. When it comes to Money in a Game none shares, not even those super duper nice Players with a Heart of Gold.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    That is Bullshit. When it comes to Money in a Game none shares, not even those super duper nice Players with a Heart of Gold.
    A lot of FCs share. Especially big FCs. People put their gear/excess into the FC chest for newbies etc, instead of selling it for profit. Potions/food/etc for raid FCs, mounts/minions for casual FCs, and etc. If a group of friends (or a couple friends), want to share a market this would be how they do it. Especially if they have a shared goal in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirlyss View Post
    A lot of FCs share. Especially big FCs. People put their gear/excess into the FC chest for newbies etc, instead of selling it for profit. Potions/food/etc for raid FCs, mounts/minions for casual FCs, and etc. If a group of friends (or a couple friends), want to share a market this would be how they do it. Especially if they have a shared goal in mind.
    Be naive all the way you like but Money and we talk about many Million, will never be shared between 2 "Friends".
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  8. #38
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    With respect, if you make enough faulty assumptions, you can convince yourself that anything is true. Folks throughout this thread have brought up many different possible explanations for this behavior, and your consistent response has been "nobody would ever do that". In spite of players saying that they have done those things themselves.

    In a way I get where you're coming from. The situation sucks. It's not fun. It makes it hard to be competitive when someone else's resources are dominating and controlling the market. But that's simply capitalism working as it always has. Some people have a lot of time to play, and that gives them an edge. Some people have a wealth of resources because they bought low and in bulk, or because they've already accumulated so much wealth over their years of playing to the point where they'll never be at risk of running out. For some people the goal isn't to make money, but rather to exert control over the market. And if they do care about money, it's an age-old tactic to kill off your competition by selling at prices so low that folks without your coffers can't afford to compete. All of this is capitalism as usual, and none of it breaks the ToS.

    And I'll agree that it sucks. But it's not proof of RMT.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    Why would Player A sell Items of Player B and Player B Items of Player A in their Retainers?
    I craft stuff, send it over to my alt, and have them sell the items. Speculation on your part is not proof of anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    Be naive all the way you like but Money and we talk about many Million, will never be shared between 2 "Friends".
    Because no one ever formed a close bond with anyone in the game or know each other in real life and started playing together.
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    Last edited by WinglessSeraphim; 09-22-2023 at 03:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    Be naive all the way you like but Money and we talk about many Million, will never be shared between 2 "Friends".
    No one is being naive. People share with friends all the time.

    That you put the quote marks around friends shows just how bitter and jaded you are. Maybe you got burned by someone you thought was a friend in the past. It's not uncommon. But it's also likely they had never truly been a friend.

    If you're going to cling to that attitude, it's not hard to see why no one would be interested in sharing with you.

    Final advice: if you want to get rich, the secret isn't selling what you want to sell. The secret is selling items others want to buy, and buy often, that have a low production cost compared to market value.

    Once you get rich, then you can afford to sell what you want to sell. If you still think it's worth your time.
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