Market Board RMT Sellers

[Aneshda]

So it is perfectly fine now that I craft 100 of 1 item and flood the market on 16 servers? How rich will I get if I do this on 16 Servers with 40-50 different Glamour Items x 100 at once? Since this is a "free" Market, guess none will be pissed about this behavior. Time to find it out i guess.

[Eirlyss]

That's not proof. Most likely what is happening, they're putting their crafted items in the FC chest so their alts can access the items. When the alt takes the items out of the FC chest, they grab the first 10 or so items. The alt isn't looking at the signature, just the item picture/name.

[Aneshda]

That's not proof. Most likely what is happening, they're putting their crafted items in the FC chest so their alts can access the items. When the alt takes the items out of the FC chest, they grab the first 10 or so items. The alt isn't looking at the signature, just the item picture/name.

That is Bullshit. When it comes to Money in a Game none shares, not even those super duper nice Players with a Heart of Gold.

[Eirlyss]

That is Bullshit. When it comes to Money in a Game none shares, not even those super duper nice Players with a Heart of Gold.

A lot of FCs share. Especially big FCs. People put their gear/excess into the FC chest for newbies etc, instead of selling it for profit. Potions/food/etc for raid FCs, mounts/minions for casual FCs, and etc. If a group of friends (or a couple friends), want to share a market this would be how they do it. Especially if they have a shared goal in mind.

[Aneshda]

A lot of FCs share. Especially big FCs. People put their gear/excess into the FC chest for newbies etc, instead of selling it for profit. Potions/food/etc for raid FCs, mounts/minions for casual FCs, and etc. If a group of friends (or a couple friends), want to share a market this would be how they do it. Especially if they have a shared goal in mind.

Be naive all the way you like but Money and we talk about many Million, will never be shared between 2 "Friends".

[LilimoLimomo]

With respect, if you make enough faulty assumptions, you can convince yourself that anything is true. Folks throughout this thread have brought up many different possible explanations for this behavior, and your consistent response has been "nobody would ever do that". In spite of players saying that they have done those things themselves.

In a way I get where you're coming from. The situation sucks. It's not fun. It makes it hard to be competitive when someone else's resources are dominating and controlling the market. But that's simply capitalism working as it always has. Some people have a lot of time to play, and that gives them an edge. Some people have a wealth of resources because they bought low and in bulk, or because they've already accumulated so much wealth over their years of playing to the point where they'll never be at risk of running out. For some people the goal isn't to make money, but rather to exert control over the market. And if they do care about money, it's an age-old tactic to kill off your competition by selling at prices so low that folks without your coffers can't afford to compete. All of this is capitalism as usual, and none of it breaks the ToS.

And I'll agree that it sucks. But it's not proof of RMT.

[Jojoya]

Be naive all the way you like but Money and we talk about many Million, will never be shared between 2 "Friends".

No one is being naive. People share with friends all the time.

That you put the quote marks around friends shows just how bitter and jaded you are. Maybe you got burned by someone you thought was a friend in the past. It's not uncommon. But it's also likely they had never truly been a friend.

If you're going to cling to that attitude, it's not hard to see why no one would be interested in sharing with you.

Final advice: if you want to get rich, the secret isn't selling what you want to sell. The secret is selling items others want to buy, and buy often, that have a low production cost compared to market value.

Once you get rich, then you can afford to sell what you want to sell. If you still think it's worth your time.

[dspguy]

If this player is indeed RMT, it is likely they are using a bot of some sort to relist items. Depending on what the market looks like on the servers mentioned, the bot probably isn't tracking the cost to make the item. Maybe they made the item when it was selling for 1M. But now it is selling for 420k. And they'll just undercut by 1 gil the whole way down from 1M to 420k. And below. Just a guess. I've seen weird stuff with assumed RMT before.

[Aneshda]

This player currently only has one mission. Track down my retainers, sell all the items I sell and undercut myself by 50% of the value on multiple servers. He/she floods the market and ruins the prices on every server. If he/she doesn't sell something on a server and I put a new item up for sale, it takes 2-3 hours for the market to be flooded with that item. He/she stalks me on every light server.