Market Board RMT Sellers

[WinglessSeraphim]

I play on Twintania and I would never think about starting to sell my Items on the other Servers. Only RMT Sellers do this.

What do we call people who go to other worlds/servers to buy items?

[Toutatis]

I play on Twintania and I would never think about starting to sell my Items on the other Servers. Only RMT Sellers do this.

I totally do this and never been into RMT. If I see items selling for twice the price on Aether where I have a character, I ask a friend to pass items I crafted (mostly food) to an alt and put them on the MB over there.

That is Bullshit. When it comes to Money in a Game none shares, not even those super duper nice Players with a Heart of Gold.

I put extra minions, several dyes, food and useful potions in the FC chests of the fcs I am part of. I don't put in garbage that no one would use though.

I even gift night pegasus, dodo mounts and minions and mounts from unreals (got 4 characters farming them) worth millions each to fc members on a one to one basis (those I insist they be for personal use and not resell due to their value and the efforts involved to get them). However, as others have said, you would have to change your attitude to be on my gift list. I only give the most valuable stuff to people who participate in fc activities, help others when they can and have a good overall attitude.

[Aneshda]

However, as others have said, you would have to change your attitude to be on my gift list. I only give the most valuable stuff to people who participate in fc activities, help others when they can and have a good overall attitude.

I will never change or bend myself just to get gifts. I'm not for sale, boy. Everything I have, I earned and farmed myself. You may impress a few newbies with your gifts, but not me.

[Kirika-]

If the player is doing their own map farming, then certainly it's profitable at any price.

The OP claims that the seller is buying the materials off the MB then selling at a loss.

Even if the seller is doing both, I don't see it coming out with a net gain unless the seller is also botting the maps (always a possibility). While the map bots were very obvious in Shadowbringers, I haven't seen any sign of them since start of Endwalker. Common belief seems to be they've moved from map and Eureka bunny farming to general FATE farming to buy gemstone vouchers to sell.

If there is RMT involved with the seller the OP is talking about, we're missing part of the picture.


We don't know what other characters the seller has. A lot of players set up dummy alts just to avoid potential harassment.

I can't say RMT isn't involved but I also can't say that it is involved with the information the OP provided. As I said above, there's information we're missing here.

We can only go by their claim that the one producing/selling the crafted items at price X is the same person who it buying the raw material for more than price X.
Which, from a stand point of for profit crafting, doesn't make a lick-of-sense.
I also do not see how a RMT could be funded by this method.

Now, if it was a different person buying up materials than whom is crafting the products, by using materials they obtained at a lower net cost, then it would make sense.
Player #1 is buying materials for whatever reason
Player #2 is producing goods for profit
But neither are associated.

If RMT was the case, then
Player #1 could be obfuscating RMT activity by using market board flipping to move Gil around accounts
Player #2 could be generating Gil for RMT by making expensive products out of bot harvested materials (although, for a pure market standpoint, it would be "more profit" to just market the raw materials in a lot of the cases, but maybe they found a niche)

I guess the main question is; Is the purchase history player's name of the materials as recorded on the market board the same as the Crafter's Signature of the product being sold at the apparent profit loss?
If it is the case, then Aneshda's statement of "Just to give to the poor and make them happy?" is pretty much what is happening.

[Eirlyss]

So, they're tanking the market for funsies after making a lot of gil on the mb? I do that for fun. Good luck to them. That's not proof of RMT. It's proof they might be bored, though.

[Aneshda]

I like to give some Items here and there to Sprouts too or to some poor Players. But 700+ expensive Glamour Items on a Server you do not even Play on. And some Items even in so large Amounts like 59 Whisperfine Woolen Boots? 5-10 or 20 Items but 700? That Player bought even my Items to resell them on another Server and not just 1 or 3 Items, no a whole damn Stock.

[Eirlyss]

I like to give some Items here and there to Sprouts too or to some poor Players. But 700+ expensive Glamour Items on a Server you do not even Play on. And some Items even in so large Amounts like 59 Whisperfine Woolen Boots? 5-10 oder 20 Items aber 700? That Player bought even my Items to resell them on another Server and not just 1 or 3 Items, no a whole damn Stock.

This is not proof of RMT. I do this as well. What is your idea of expensive? Mine is a gil cap. A couple hundred thousand is cheap. This seller may think the same way. I'm not validating RMT either way, but there isn't enough proof to be accusing anyone.

[Aneshda]

This is not proof of RMT. I do this as well. What is your idea of expensive? Mine is a gil cap. A couple hundred thousand is cheap. This seller may think the same way. I'm not validating RMT either way, but there isn't enough proof to be accusing anyone.

Items for 1 Million Gil, extreme under the Material Prices + Market Board Fees.

[Eirlyss]

This still isn't expensive, especially since they're making a lot of gil back. They're taking what? A 100k maybe 200k? loss? Just let them be. Compete if you want to, but if that's too much for you, then leave. No one is holding you to this market, and there is 0 proof of RMT. You could make a case that someone is bored and has a lot of gil, but RMT is way out there. This person isn't making gil, but likely losing gil. Even if you assumed the person was out there buying cheap mats from a non-marketboard supplier, their profit margins would be small, but still profit. Maybe they want to take over the market, and this is their way of pushing out the competition. Anyway, 0 proof that RMT is involved. RMT'ers want to make gil, not lose gil, which is the opposite of the accusations.

[Aneshda]

We Players of Twintania want to sell those Items too, since we Play on that Server, we want to earn Gil. If that Player wants to give away then why he/she is not giving away his/her Millions? It makes no sense in taking over our Market and held us forever hostage just to push one ego. He can sell all he wants on his Home Server but he/she diktates the prices on all Light Servers since years and that is wrong. No one does this for no reason for years. So what is the Point in that? Why block the whole Market for all others, why hindering all other Players to earn Gil on so many Glamour Items? Other Players can't choose their prices for all those Items, cause that 1 Player Stocks so many Items at once that there is never a chance to sell your Items. Not even for a single Gil more as his/her prices.

And meanwhile, that Player dropped again all Prices, second time today. Just like I wrote it earlier.