Should the devs appologise to the community

[TaleraRistain]

Why you are quoting part of a post of mine and responding to it as if I was saying what you're implying as opposed to my post being made to counter the false narrative that players asking for more content are just going through it 'too quickly' when there's barely anything with longevity when it comes to Endwalker's content offerings?

You aren't just asking for more content. You're claiming the developers took something away they had said was coming. It's fine to be disappointed with the amount of content. But it's dishonest to say players were deliberately denied something just because it was included in a previous expansion.

[aveyond-dreams]

I can't help but feel you've said this 100s of times at this point...yet still pay for this game. At that point the question arises, is SE just wrong for the direction of the game or is it also partially the players fault for continuing to fund what they don't like telling SE what to push forward on? Often players dissolve themselves of any responsibility for the direction a game takes and its an important thing to realize.
XIV is changing with the times. Just how it is. The hardcore MMO isn't really desirable in today age

I'm only choosing to respond to this post because I can't readily find Theodric's post where he talks about funding/paying vs not paying for the game but I quite literally already spend a significant amount of money monthly on Crysta most of which funds my activities in FFXI. SE already got my money via that. Diverting some of it into FFXIV to fund occasional subscriptions feels like it's inconsequential because I already gave SE money anyway.

And no, I don't have any responsibility for FFXIV being in this state when I've spent the past 2 years trying to give feedback to steer things away from what Endwalker eventually became. I spoke out at each wrong turn and all I got in return was content creators mocking my threads only for them to finally now realize how bad the situation is now. I'm guiltless.

[AngelCheese77]

Would only need to apologize if they put out a roadmap and never delivered on it.

Don’t see that at all so, no.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I'm only choosing to respond to this post because I can't readily find Theodric's post where he talks about funding/paying vs not paying for the game but I quite literally already spend a significant amount of money monthly on Crysta most of which funds my activities in FFXI. SE already got my money via that. Diverting some of it into FFXIV to fund occasional subscriptions feels like it's inconsequential because I already gave SE money anyway.

And no, I don't have any responsibility for FFXIV being in this state when I've spent the past 2 years trying to give feedback to steer things away from what Endwalker eventually became. I spoke out at each wrong turn and all I got in return was content creators mocking my threads only for them to finally now realize how bad the situation is now. I'm guiltless.

Deny responsibility all you want. A company has little reason to change what they do when customers keep paying. You'd think you'd know this considering what killed 1.0...you know...a lack of paying players ALONGSIDE those folks giving feedback. Every single one of us is responsible if we are paying every month, feedback or not.

Also side note let's not pretend every thread of yours held merit. That is far from the truth. And just saying, going "I was right all along, I'm guiltless" while still also paying for the game to this day doesn't make you look wise...

[Rolder50]

Real question, did something happen over the last couple days that I missed? Or are people still just (rightfully) upset about this expansion being lackluster?

[Connor]

Real question, did something happen over the last couple days that I missed? Or are people still just (rightfully) upset about this expansion being lackluster?

Neither, it’s just trolls flooding to forums to make the issue seem worse than it actually is. Not that there’s no discussion to be had around the issue of lacklustre expansion, future content design etc, but a lot of these ‘doom and gloom’ threads are just created to be incendiary and not to actually discuss something

[Theodric]

You aren't just asking for more content. You're claiming the developers took something away they had said was coming. It's fine to be disappointed with the amount of content. But it's dishonest to say players were deliberately denied something just because it was included in a previous expansion.

I think you are moving the goalposts and taking my post out of context. Once again, I was responding to this comment:

It's not SE's fault players are incapable of pacing themselves and each try to consume content faster than a child's birthday party at an all-you-can-eat-resturant. Stop and smell the rolanberries once in a while and maybe players won't run out of things to do in the game...

My post was highlighting that the concerns are being raised precisely because of the lack of content with staying power. The development team deliberately chose to cut out content with staying power and provided no equivalent to make up for that, so to try and present concerns about there being very little to do in the game as a player caught up on the latest batch of MSQ's strikes me as rather disingenuous.

Nowhere did I claim that they promised an equivalent of Bozja, Eureka or Ishgard Reconstruction (though there's interview comments where Yoshi-P dangles the potential of Garlemald reconstruction which ended up going nowhere...but I digress).

[aveyond-dreams]

I think you are moving the goalposts and taking my post out of context. Once again, I was responding to this comment:



My post was highlighting that the concerns are being raised precisely because of the lack of content with staying power. The development team deliberately chose to cut out content with staying power and provided no equivalent to make up for that, so to try and present concerns about there being very little to do in the game as a player caught up on the latest batch of MSQ's strikes me as rather disingenuous.

Nowhere did I claim that they promised an equivalent of Bozja, Eureka or Ishgard Reconstruction (though there's interview comments where Yoshi-P dangles the potential of Garlemald reconstruction which ended up going nowhere...but I digress).

Who needs a reconstruction collaborative effort with other players when we can have even more "slow living" content?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Who needs a reconstruction collaborative effort with other players when we can have even more "slow living" content?

Thing is if you didn't like DoH/,DoL or like Eureka style content both SB and ShB were very boring expansions post content wise no different than folks claim EW is now. If you don't care for Variant/EO/Island Sanctuary you're in the same boat. This isn't an EW centric issue like many claim it is

[OliverQ]

Real question, did something happen over the last couple days that I missed? Or are people still just (rightfully) upset about this expansion being lackluster?

It's just the same people coming here whining every day about the same issues.