Should the devs appologise to the community

[IkaraGreydancer]

ARR battle system team: Kei Sato, Takashi Kawamoto, Hikaru Tamaki, Tsuyoshi Yokozawa

Endwalker battle system team: Kei Sato, Takashi Kawamoto, Hikaru Tamaki, Hironori Isami

IMO this is the root of the problem outside of perhaps Yoshida himself (Or the financing department holding him to ransom). The battle system team (aka class designers) are stretched too thin, the team should have been expanded long ago or another team should have been bought in on consultancy terms to feed the internal team with idea filled whiteboards for them to pick and choose from.

This is why I opt to not blame CBU3 for the majority of this. Patches wouldn't take so long if SE gave the game the funding and manpower it deserves. Get some of the FF7 Remake folks over hear to help with battle elements and rpg mechanics (for example). But SE won't do that sadly. I 100% believe the devs want XIV to be it's best but they only get so much help from higher ups. Ofc I don't know this for sure but it makes sense based on what we've seen

[Aldath]

Personally, I'm not particularly interested an apology, I want results, I want hires and I want fresh blood and ideas brought into the mix.

I want results too, but ehhh... if you read the recent interviews, new blood is exactly what they got and it might be one of the reasons the content has been so "mid".

[Striker44]

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Short answer - nope.

Long answer - They have nothing whatsoever to "apologize" for. They've made a game that continues to be successful and with each expansion increases in the size of its active playerbase (EW included). Hundreds of thousands of people are playing the game and having fun. Just because any proverbial "you" is not means nothing deserving of an "apology"; that's incredibly egocentric.

Cash shop? It's all cosmetics. Meaningless to me, have never bought anything on it, but the only "clear nature" of it from my view is that it's NOT a P2W feature, which is all that matters to me.

No change? They actually went in a significantly different direction this expansion with things like IS, Variant/Criterion, etc.. You can debate how successful those were, but there were most definitely unique features included. Or do you mean the standard formula of how content in general is released? In that case, your disappointment is my enjoyment. I like the type of content being released and the timing of it.

Content vs. what I pay for? I get far more content out of FFXIV each month than I get on any of the streaming services I also pay monthly subs for.

6 months between patches in 7.0? Umm - say what? Exaggerations like that only look pathetic and undermine any attempt at having a point.

[Renalt]

No. They are doing what is making them money as a business. They should keep doing that.

That said I don't think the game is for me anymore so once.my sub expires in December I'm pretty much done.

I'm not the playerbase. I'm a drop in the ocean.

[ZephyrMenodora]

No. They are doing what is making them money as a business. They should keep doing that.

That said I don't think the game is for me anymore so once.my sub expires in December I'm pretty much done.

I'm not the playerbase. I'm a drop in the ocean.

Will this be an Aveyond situation where we countdown to December and then you'll be back by March 2024? lol

(Just to be clear, I have no issues with you as a poster. Just being snarky).

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Yes they should.
And they should come clean which forum/players are the ones being taken into cosideration as "feedback", and give said players a distiction on forums and also give a public reviewing process to grant such distiction.

And Yoshida should start to post/reply at least once a week on random GENERAL topics, in English, French and German.
And for inclusion sake, Spanish and Portuguese too.

[AnotherPerson]

Yes they should.
And they should come clean which forum/players are the ones being taken into cosideration as "feedback", and give said players a distiction on forums and also give a public reviewing process to grant such distiction.

And Yoshida should start to post/reply at least once a week on random GENERAL topics, in English, French and German.
And for inclusion sake, Spanish and Portuguese too.

Most likely, they look at forum posts and cherry pick posts. So one poster might say "Change 1 and Change 2" because 1 and 2 are both required to work in tandem, but they'll just think "Change 1 is reasonable" because some people don't want Change 2. and then implement Change 1; then they get backlash afterwards because Change 1 doesn't work in a vacuum and feels incomplete without Change 2.

So if they were to actually pull which forum players they are taken into consideration as feedback and attempt to "quote" them as per usual SE standard tactic, they'll just get backlash all the same for misinterpreting the posts. Even if they didn't do that they still have issues with misinterpretation of posts in general. It isn't the first time this type of misinterpretation has happened. The 'go play ultimate' on healers in the Q&A is still vivid in my mind -- and the question wasn't healer difficulty but healer engagement.

[Zakuyia]

Please try to leave constructive replies instead of just saying anything to be heard
I've been toying with this question in my mind basically since around 6.2 when it became obvious this game was'nt going to deliver any real of meaningful change.. seeing the clear nature of the cash shop and the exploitation in the games current content output vs what we pay our sub for, anbd ofcourse that 7.0 will be a min of 6months between patches of basically... nothing...

should the developers appologise for the state of the game?

and if not... what level of accountability SHOULD we hold them to? if any..

(ofcourse this is just a question i am not demanding this or that people do this so please read it properly before you start attacking me)

Now I might take some hate for this but shoot ill say it. Have you all ever played other mmo's before especially ones from Aria games. Namely stuff like Scarlet Blade, Have you guys played elsword, have you guys ever seen Josh strife hayes worse mmo? Ever played tera online. I mean the reason I ask is cause Yes this game has its faults but jesus from the forum perspective your making me think this game only has at most 30 ppl online. XD I mean just reading all the doom post on ff14 forums I gotta ask. IF the game is in such a terrible state why are you all forcing yourself to stay why not quit and go play something better. why subject yourself to this torture. You guys know what the definition of insanity is why subject yourself to that level of madness?

[Krojack]

No, this is no different than every other xpac at this point into it.

[Mostly_Raxus]

we dont need a speech written by a pr firm, as my parents and many others use to say, actions speak louder than words.