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    Aldath's Avatar
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Doesn't affect me, I cleared the tier yonks ago. I could stop doing reclears and it wouldn't affect me whatsoever. But I do find it concerning, how 'dead' the game feels now, because I cannot imagine it's going to go any direction but 'worse' as time goes on. Maybe they're relying entirely on the Fall Guys event to keep people around
    The longevity of content in a story focused MMO is an issue they MUST tackle sooner than later, it will become increasingly bad as time goes by. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the expansion with the most short-lived endgame content? As far as I understand it fell into the category of "dead content" earlier than before.

    Look, I say this from my perspective as a sprout who is about to lose his leaves. Yesterday I completed the Omega Raid series in Primal, but each DF queue as a DPS took about 30 minutes. I know Healers and Tanks have shorter queues, but it's the first time content queues take me more than 15 minutes. It also happened with some SB Trials. Thing is, we won't have DF for said content; new players who purchase DT and want to make blue quests and try stuff will find themselves, probably, in a worse situation than the one I'm in right now. ESPECIALLY for the ones who want to try old EX/Savage as they are in a limbo: no one wants to do PF for older stuff, but no one DFs for it either. Yes, I'm part of a Discord for older stuff, it's a coin flip if people will even want to join and judging by the low amount of PF for CURRENT endgame content, I bet older will be even less appealing.

    I might have the luck to arrive fresh to Dawntrail and I'll be able to enjoy the content at the same pace as the rest of the people, but buying the new expansion, being forced into hours of older stuff you can't even properly play with others, only to arrive to the new one and find out that it isn't much different? Now that sucks and feels scummy. I am glad we have AT THE VERY LEAST DS for dungeons, but the fact they don't even plan to do it for older 8 man? Way to go SE...
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldath View Post
    The longevity of content in a story focused MMO is an issue they MUST tackle sooner than later, it will become increasingly bad as time goes by. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the expansion with the most short-lived endgame content? As far as I understand it fell into the category of "dead content" earlier than before.

    Look, I say this from my perspective as a sprout who is about to lose his leaves. Yesterday I completed the Omega Raid series in Primal, but each DF queue as a DPS took about 30 minutes. I know Healers and Tanks have shorter queues, but it's the first time content queues take me more than 15 minutes. It also happened with some SB Trials. Thing is, we won't have DF for said content; new players who purchase DT and want to make blue quests and try stuff will find themselves, probably, in a worse situation than the one I'm in right now. ESPECIALLY for the ones who want to try old EX/Savage as they are in a limbo: no one wants to do PF for older stuff, but no one DFs for it either. Yes, I'm part of a Discord for older stuff, it's a coin flip if people will even want to join and judging by the low amount of PF for CURRENT endgame content, I bet older will be even less appealing.

    I might have the luck to arrive fresh to Dawntrail and I'll be able to enjoy the content at the same pace as the rest of the people, but buying the new expansion, being forced into hours of older stuff you can't even properly play with others, only to arrive to the new one and find out that it isn't much different? Now that sucks and feels scummy. I am glad we have AT THE VERY LEAST DS for dungeons, but the fact they don't even plan to do it for older 8 man? Way to go SE...
    It can kind of depend how you look at it, the closest this game ever got to the state we're currently in was Heavensward, because outside of hard-core raiding (which was a disaster during that time period until Creator) there was essentially nothing since Diadem flopped not once, but both times (They finally succeeded with Eureka in Stormblood), and pvp was still experimental at the time. The biggest benefit you could say it had elsewise was that the relic actually had steps to it, but I don't remember the exact patch the anima weapon started. Palace of the Dead was added later in the expansion (and had the the benefit of being new and fresh).

    Arguably Heavensward can be considered worse in terms of the amount of content released compared to Endwalker's.

    If Endwalker's place was swapped with Heavensward? It would likely be regarded as horrible post MSQ due to content longevity being thinner than a sheet of paper, and, again, no field zone to soak up time.
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    Last edited by Zairava; 09-21-2023 at 09:43 PM. Reason: changed and removed text for better wording