Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
I feel all of these answers are missing the point I'm trying. Rather you guys are just leaning on what I said as a convenience way to beat on a dead horse that had been beaten to zombie. If anything, these replies further prove my point more than anything. None of the jobs mentioned had a complete tear down and re-imagination like SMN did. Had instead of remaking the old SMN, the new SMN was introduced as a new job I don't think anyone would have blink. The job was "fundamentally" changed. Whether all of the job "rework" are still just more or less adjusted/tackled on/patched up on the same foundation.

Again, the fact you all insist SE has been doing a bad job with these classes, that just re-enforce my point that maybe they all need a complete tear down like SMN.
If you want an example of a complete tear down and rebuild of mechanics, I'd like to point you to MCH. What did MCH get from ShB to EW? One extra use on cooldown button and a new finisher on their robot pet. Do you see why people have no faith they'd do anything great with SMN or any other job they tore down?