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  1. #1101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    Actually it's probably from a person called NekoSenpai (profile here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...873-NekoSenpai), who has been harassing a lot of people through thread tags. They are most likely the same person as RaenMan, who accused Macchi of being a pedophile, and they admitted to mass reporting people if you look at their post history. By the way they are someone from 4chan, and is part of the anti-Trancer faction. Yes, you heard that right, for some reason they are still waging the Trancer war when no one even cares anymore.



    Funnily enough, whilst accusing others for ban evading in the thread tags, they themselves are ban evading. NekoSenpai is their third account, if not the fourth or more. And dare I say, they are remarkably active on the forums. They put up these thread tags mere minutes after a thread is made, at any time of the day.

    Even more funny - just one or two minutes after I made this post, they removed all their harassing thread tags.
    Truly strange indeed how they were scrubbed then re-added by this individual. There's more that one can see here and on the other account, here, shown here. Beyond just a little bizarre to go back to a thread and add new tags to it in this way after this was pointed out. Based on the tags added and the thread involved for the second of the two, seems like you're spot on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    You can simply report the original post and state in your report that you're reporting inappropriate tags.

    Source:



    Here's a link to the actual post, too, for good measure:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post2959750
    Thanks, it's nice to know the forum rules on this.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 09-09-2023 at 02:40 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  2. #1102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasu View Post
    issue is that the entire connection between players and the FFXIV team has been lost for a while
    This started when Covid did. They could no longer go to Fan Fests and talk to players in real life, so any real life pushback on Shadowbringers post-release or Endwalker pre-release couldn't happen.

    We also had a huger amount of players coming from WoW since 2018 due to its RNG, but another segment of them did in 2021 that attracted people from other games as well. Combining this with the fact the concurrent population of each expansion has grown anyway we then had a large variety of different players with different interests. We already had the veteran players vs new player gap growing every patch too.

    We now have lots of different types of players, all who want different things and play for different reasons and started the game at different times. SE can deliver content for one of those types of players and the other types could all complain because of it. What used to be a tiny percentage interested in something, is now large in raw numbers.

    Y'shtola once said: "Having drawn your strength from such a cacophony of voices, can you truly be sure you still speak with your own?"

    A dilemma any MMORPG that grows large enough is likely to face, in hindsight.

    they were incredible impressed that Yoshida approached their biggest streamers for one-on-one interviews. Now we don't even get Q&A's during FanFest.
    We have had Q&As very recently at various events. We have only had one Fan Fest so far so it's too soon to say they stopped doing it. There is also no evidence that they won't do interviews again at the next media tour in 2024 (yes those interviews were from the media tour).

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    How do you guys know someone was banned (and also over what post)?
    All their medals disappear.
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  3. #1103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Isnt the point of the video link for it to be watched

    lmao I'm sorry but this is kinda funny, that's like sending a youtube video to a family member knowing very well they wont watch it

    the reason for the link to the video literally existing is for it to be watched, not for people to just read the title, if they only read the title that's on them
    The entire point of what Zepla thinks and mean and whatever post goodbye or whatever FFXIV thing or not she has posted is entirely irrelevant to the community, as the game hits and is different for all, one individual does not mean that everything whatever that person with a mic and webcam, that it actually mean anything usefull at all.

    If you play the game, you play the game, if don't like the game and complain about it here, find another game to play.

    I have been playing this game here since August 2016, and had sort of minor breaks in it here and there as well, and heck yes played other games, latest of note would be Stray and Baldurs Gate 3.

    What Zepla or whatever else other streamer say is entirely irrelevant, if it is only critics... no one can use their personal critics be they positive or negative at all, and that is a fact, with FFXIV it is very much a personal opinion, and for people liking this game is in the extreme amounts.

    Maybe they are or going to be de-moniticed or something and need to vent, however it is their problem for not being able to provide well enough and certainly not the problem of the game nor the community... these threads here involving these persons is definetely not good for their PR... nor other streamers either.

    Also they should stop stealing others content.
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  4. #1104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The entire point of what Zepla thinks and mean and whatever post goodbye or whatever FFXIV thing or not she has posted is entirely irrelevant to the community, as the game hits and is different for all, one individual does not mean that everything whatever that person with a mic and webcam, that it actually mean anything usefull at all.
    I started this thread with a similar mindset; I can think for myself and how Zepla or any other person feels about the game is irrelevant to me. That said, Zepla has a lot of visibility, way more than I do, so she probably can sway her audience in some manner if they don't have strong feelings about XIV one way or another. Because of her large audience she is more likely to be listened to by the Devs than me or anyone else here.

    So, I do feel streamers have some relevance, even if to me personally I won't change how I feel about a game just because they rambled in front of a camera.

    I do think that a good professional streamer will keep their finger on the pulse of a game though, and that's something I think Zepla has done in the videos.
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  5. #1105
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    How do you guys know someone was banned (and also over what post)?
    The medals will disappear above their profile, I did also see his ban notification he got (discord friends we play XI together)
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  6. #1106
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I started this thread with a similar mindset; I can think for myself and how Zepla or any other person feels about the game is irrelevant to me. That said, Zepla has a lot of visibility, way more than I do, so she probably can sway her audience in some manner if they don't have strong feelings about XIV one way or another. Because of her large audience she is more likely to be listened to by the Devs than me or anyone else here.

    So, I do feel streamers have some relevance, even if to me personally I won't change how I feel about a game just because they rambled in front of a camera.

    I do think that a good professional streamer will keep their finger on the pulse of a game though, and that's something I think Zepla has done in the videos.
    Not really, she is that other kind of streamer, a good streamer would keep his/her personal opinions out of it, else you are just developing propaganda and coming with pompous self absorped BS...... this is not a review and if it goes alot down like that, then the streamer is actually losing the touch with the game and worse credibility.

    Alot of new people wont notice any of these things as they got mountains to climb to even get all jobs to max level... and by the time they reach end game... new stuff has come in between and or am working on 3-4 different side paths... that also would take tonnes of times, days, months to complete.

    So yes irrelevant, if this is what Zepla and other Streamers has come to be to just beating on a dead horse, because they don't like, then they have entirely lost the purpose of the said or mentioned role they want and have taken.

    It is simple as that... followers will stop following... and simps will sooner or later realize that they wont be able to get with that person at all after all, even though they get a smiley, or approved stamp on some of their praises.

    What other places does also do stuff like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The entire point of what Zepla thinks and mean and whatever post goodbye or whatever FFXIV thing or not she has posted is entirely irrelevant to the community, as the game hits and is different for all, one individual does not mean that everything whatever that person with a mic and webcam, that it actually mean anything usefull at all.
    You're confusing your personal preferences with reality. You want content creators to not matter, which is very different than content creators actually not mattering.

    Why do you think corporations spend millions of dollars on social media influencers? Do you think they're just throwing their money away for fun? Why do you think Square Enix invites the games biggest streamers to the media tour and gives them personal interviews with YoshiP?

    The explosive growth this game saw shortly before Endwalker launch was almost entirely driven by a group of content creators from another game generating hype by playing this game. The game saw unprecedented, expansion-pack levels of player growth during the month Asmongold started playing the game, despite it being during a typically slow part of the expansion.


    No amount of wishful pretending is going to undo the impact these people can have.
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  8. #1108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    The entire point of what Zepla thinks and mean and whatever post goodbye or whatever FFXIV thing or not she has posted is entirely irrelevant to the community, as the game hits and is different for all, one individual does not mean that everything whatever that person with a mic and webcam, that it actually mean anything usefull at all.

    If you play the game, you play the game, if don't like the game and complain about it here, find another game to play.
    Why not do both? This has been addressed countless times but people who genuinely don't like a product tend to just leave it altogether. People offering feedback are those who largely still care and hope the feedback can change it in a direction they consider better. If a product is at a point where it's unsalvageable and the company making it don't care at all, that's usually when I'd just kick it to the curb.

    I have been playing this game here since August 2016, and had sort of minor breaks in it here and there as well, and heck yes played other games, latest of note would be Stray and Baldurs Gate 3.

    What Zepla or whatever else other streamer say is entirely irrelevant, if it is only critics... no one can use their personal critics be they positive or negative at all, and that is a fact, with FFXIV it is very much a personal opinion, and for people liking this game is in the extreme amounts.

    Maybe they are or going to be de-moniticed or something and need to vent, however it is their problem for not being able to provide well enough and certainly not the problem of the game nor the community... these threads here involving these persons is definetely not good for their PR... nor other streamers either.

    Also they should stop stealing others content.
    I do think you ought to watch the video. It's actually a bit frustrating at times because she goes to so much effort to lace it with 'positivity'. Which is to say, it's far from unequivocally 'negative'. And I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say but people aren't so unique that they and only they will experience the same pluses or minuses in a game, so yes while your opinion of a game is personal, that by no means implies it can't be shared with others. Things aren't quite so solipsistic as you paint them as.

    As to her being 'demonetised' and venting over it, that seems like a total red herring. What even makes you think that's what's at stake? Her average viewership by game was posted here, it's not like XIV is that integral to it.
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  9. #1109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Not really, she is that other kind of streamer, a good streamer would keep his/her personal opinions out of it, else you are just developing propaganda and coming with pompous self absorped BS...... this is not a review and if it goes alot down like that, then the streamer is actually losing the touch with the game and worse credibility.

    Alot of new people wont notice any of these things as they got mountains to climb to even get all jobs to max level... and by the time they reach end game... new stuff has come in between and or am working on 3-4 different side paths... that also would take tonnes of times, days, months to complete.

    So yes irrelevant, if this is what Zepla and other Streamers has come to be to just beating on a dead horse, because they don't like, then they have entirely lost the purpose of the said or mentioned role they want and have taken.

    It is simple as that... followers will stop following... and simps will sooner or later realize that they wont be able to get with that person at all after all, even though they get a smiley, or approved stamp on some of their praises.

    What other places does also do stuff like that?

    I don't understand why people clearly refuse to watch the video and still jump into this thread with some short-sighted, unfounded, strong opinions.

    It's not just her opinion as she is sharing comments and opinions from her viewers and the greater community as well. If anything, she would be losing touch with the game if she DIDN'T bother to share those (increasingly loud) voices. Great for new players that they have stuff to do from the older expansions, but as you can easily judge from the title she was talking about Endwalker specifically.

    People are allowed to have an opinion and they are allowed to criticize the game they like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
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    Just say you think any and all constructive feedback should be ignored and get it over with. You will keep calling yourself out that you didn't even watch the video because she performed the literal definition of extensive constructive criticism.

    It is literally objective fact that Endwalker has not provided incentive to make the content it released long lasting.

    Eureka Orthos does not provide enough exp to make it another recommended path other than ye old dungeon spam and roulettes

    Criterion dungeon, while being excellent content from what I've heard unanimously, has laughably lackluster rewards and essentially is dead 2-3 days after patch release

    Island Sanctuary flopped for me when I found out how it worked from everyone else. You get max rank and then it gets boiled down to going there for less than 15 minutes

    Even hardcore raiders are either burned out or bored

    Feedback will always be relevant because nothing improves without it. Keep being ignorant because you clearly have no intention of being anything else but. You constantly dismiss other peoples' posts then put in your own unwanted input not a single soul actually asked for, which by your own logic is completely worthless.

    No. Shit. New players have a lot to go through. They are new players, the amount of backlogged content from old expansion they can go through is massive. WE have already done all of that, got what we wanted, our criticism is toward Endwalker patch content. You would absolutely not be defending this state of the game if this were back in Heavensward. Which, not that you care, is the expansion Zepla joined in. You want to know why Heavensward despite it's horrific era for the playerbase isn't the worst expansion that she has played? You guessed it, because she was a new player, she has been on both sides of the current spectrum, her feedback is absolutely valid whether you think it is or not.

    I have not once ever seen you actually try to discuss in good faith. It's pathetic.
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