A new tactic for the dissatisfied

[Jojoya]

Then I'm open to understanding your point, because I really dont, you are implying that people on steam play games differently right, that's fine per say yeah if that's what you think ?

but what about it is different than someone playing standalone ? people on standalone also play steam games, the only way you could sort of make sense about what you're saying is if you are implying that people on standalone dont have steam, which lets be honest here is absolutely ridiculous

also the little "i'm not a fellow ffxiv hater" comment to try and make yourself look like a victim was a bit comical, i dont care about you being a hater or not, however i care if you try and make a point agaisnt something I say that makes absolutely no sense, which is the case here.

I will say it again for good measure

If your thinking is that steam players play differently, which seems to be what you think, I accept your opinion, that's absolutely fine

Then you mention :



Which means you are talking about standalone players

You are directly implying with those sentences that standalone users dont use steam (?) and stick to one game, I just want you to understand how ridiculous of a take that is to think that would be the case

You are inferring something that I am not implying at all.

You seem to think that I'm talking about FFXIV players specifically. I'm not. I'm talking about all my friends across all games, regardless of whether or not they are playing FFXIV.

It is a difference I see in those who are heavy Steam users in general, regardless of whether or not they play FFXIV and regardless of whether they use Steam for their platform if they do, compared to those I know who do not use Steam but are on PC. Like you, I use the PC version of FFXIV but I also use Steam for other games (hence my comments elsewhere about how someone would think I don't play anything but Cities: Skiylines and Darkest Dungeon if they were monitoring my Steam activity).

I'm not pulling the victim card. If there's a victim here, it's you and you're doing it to yourself with your constant negative narrative. That's an unhealthy mindset to plant yourself in. But it's also your choice to do it.

And right on schedule, there's Titanmen on your heels. I'm starting to wonder if a couple of people around here are right and you two really are one and the same.

This is completely irrelevant unless you think most people who use the SE client doesn't have Steam ?

Japan exists and a good chunk of its gamers are using PCs even if consoles still account for the majority.

Steam is still new there and having a difficult time catching on because JP players don't like the dark interface and because Steam is pricing things in US Dollars for now.

Do I believe that in NA and EU most PC gamers, regardless of their FFXIV status, don't have Steam? I genuinely don't know but likely most do use Steam. That doesn't mean there isn't a sizeable number that won't use it for a variety of reasons.

Regardless, I don't see how that is supposed to change what I said about my personal experience with those who use Steam and those who don't. As I said, the heavy users I know jump from game to game and those that also play FFXIV tend to only play for about a month when a major patch is newly released before switching to other games, then returning to FFXIV when another major patch is released.

If your personal experience is different, then it's different.

As I said the chart is meaningless without something to compare it against showing that the activity is not normal.