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    Gonna sound harsh but it always seems like veteran players heavily overestimate their own worth to the game lol. Aren’t there 10 new players who are going to be subbed for at least several months to finish storyline, for every 1 veteran that leaves from sheer boredom?

    The game gets like this every expansion cycle lol, hell even in the later ARR patches the amount of players dropped off pretty heavily.

    It doesn’t really matter how hard one tries with the ‘speak with your wallet’ tactic, it’s sadly guaranteed to fail because for every wallet they lose they’re gaining another 10. Then when those 10 wallets inevitably all quit there’ll be another 10 just starting the game, and the wheel keeps spinning.
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Gonna sound harsh but it always seems like veteran players heavily overestimate their own worth to the game lol. Aren’t there 10 new players who are going to be subbed for at least several months to finish storyline, for every 1 veteran that leaves from sheer boredom?

    The game gets like this every expansion cycle lol, hell even in the later ARR patches the amount of players dropped off pretty heavily.

    It doesn’t really matter how hard one tries with the ‘speak with your wallet’ tactic, it’s sadly guaranteed to fail because for every wallet they lose they’re gaining another 10. Then when those 10 wallets inevitably all quit there’ll be another 10 just starting the game, and the wheel keeps spinning.
    Might be some truth in that. It's probably also why we get so few genuine newbies here (on the forum) - they're too busy playing the MSQ, whereas all we can do here is reflect on said MSQ in the past-tense and discuss endgame content.
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    Aldous Axehand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Gonna sound harsh but it always seems like veteran players heavily overestimate their own worth to the game lol. Aren’t there 10 new players who are going to be subbed for at least several months to finish storyline, for every 1 veteran that leaves from sheer boredom?

    The game gets like this every expansion cycle lol, hell even in the later ARR patches the amount of players dropped off pretty heavily.

    It doesn’t really matter how hard one tries with the ‘speak with your wallet’ tactic, it’s sadly guaranteed to fail because for every wallet they lose they’re gaining another 10. Then when those 10 wallets inevitably all quit there’ll be another 10 just starting the game, and the wheel keeps spinning.
    Well yes, but actually no. Eventually the game will hit market cap and just about everyone that will ever want to give the game a go will have given it a go. So while this is currently the case, eventually the game will not be able to continue to attract new players. This was one of the contributing factors in WoW's population decline after WotLK.

    The other factor that hinders a new player's monetary value now, is the extremely generous and ever increasingly generous free trial. If they keep expanding this thing it will only be another 6 years or so before 7.0 is in the free trial. At present SE are only making money off of new players that subscribe before the end of the free trial or the sub time for the two most recent expansions. And if the game doesn't convert that new player into a long term subscriber, then SE is actually losing money on the free trial.
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