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    *sniffs* I'm smelling a troll at this point. This will be my last response, unless illriginalized stops avoiding questions with all the subtlety of Sarah Palin avoiding Katie Couric's 'fastballs'.

    So, to OP: You started this thread asking for valid opinions. You've been given several. In just this last page, I myself pointed out that gear swapping removes a lot of strategy, and gave a detailed explanation as to why I hold this opinion. More recently, KyrsIsley called you out repeatedly on specifics you avoided addressing. Your response was a poorly worded, largely tangential post based on several dubious arguments, which you concluded with an insult.

    If you are somehow aiming to make the anti-swapping crowd look like raving idiots, you are doing an atrocious job. You're in fact emphasizing the stereotypes that many of us have regarding "elitists" obsessed with acquiring every piece of gear possible for every single job. You haven't offered a single skillful, intelligent rebuttal, let alone a valid argument of your own in support of implementing mid-battle swaps.

    So - are you actually going to respond to any of the measured, detailed opinions that people have voiced on the subject? Or are you just going to continue implying that it's the rest of us who are morons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    *sniffs* I'm smelling a troll at this point. This will be my last response, unless illriginalized stops avoiding questions with all the subtlety of Sarah Palin avoiding Katie Couric's 'fastballs'.

    So, to OP: You started this thread asking for valid opinions. You've been given several. In just this last page, I myself pointed out that gear swapping removes a lot of strategy, and gave a detailed explanation as to why I hold this opinion. More recently, KyrsIsley called you out repeatedly on specifics you avoided addressing. Your response was a poorly worded, largely tangential post based on several dubious arguments, which you concluded with an insult.

    If you are somehow aiming to make the anti-swapping crowd look like raving idiots, you are doing an atrocious job. You're in fact emphasizing the stereotypes that many of us have regarding "elitists" obsessed with acquiring every piece of gear possible for every single job. You haven't offered a single skillful, intelligent rebuttal, let alone a valid argument of your own in support of implementing mid-battle swaps.

    So - are you actually going to respond to any of the measured, detailed opinions that people have voiced on the subject? Or are you just going to continue implying that it's the rest of us who are morons?
    My intentions for this thread was more for data collection.. surveying if you will. To find a way around the problems people have with utilizing different stats via gear swap mid-battle.

    I didn't care for debating it. It wasn't my primary intention for this thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post

    Duh. Games are meant to be played and enjoyed. If you want a second job go fill out an app at Walmart or something.
    I'm a server/systems admin, a project manager at that, collecting, analyzing, and utilizing data is part of my everyday life. And I enjoy it.
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    Last edited by illriginalized; 04-12-2012 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    My intentions for this thread was more for data collection.. surveying if you will. To find a way around the problems people have with utilizing different stats via gear swap mid-battle.

    I didn't care for debating it. It wasn't my primary intention for this thread.
    Basically, you are biased. Since you rule out all data that is against your opinion as outliers without really investigating the true merit behind them. I don't think I need to go back to every post that you have demonstrated this kind of bias and point them out.

    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    'm a server/systems admin, a project manager at that, collecting, analyzing, and utilizing data is part of my everyday life. And I enjoy it.
    To be honest, you lack the objectivity to be a PM or an analyst. I am also a PM. Sure I do some data collecting and analyzing every now and then, but that's primarily the analyst's job. The main focus of my job is to stay objective so I can successfully communicate with all parties involved in a decision so the decision is made without bias, and frankly you don't have the objectivity.
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    Assumptions are bad mmmkay

    Quote Originally Posted by KyrsIsley View Post
    Basically, you are biased. Since you rule out all data that is against your opinion as outliers without really investigating the true merit behind them. I don't think I need to go back to every post that you have demonstrated this kind of bias and point them out.



    To be honest, you lack the objectivity to be a PM or an analyst. I am also a PM. Sure I do some data collecting and analyzing every now and then, but that's primarily the analyst's job. The main focus of my job is to stay objective so I can successfully communicate with all parties involved in a decision so the decision is made without bias, and frankly you don't have the objectivity.
    I didn't shoot down any opposing ideas other than casual play and inventory.

    I've been a Project Manager for just over 6 years and with a tech team of 8 members.
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    Last edited by illriginalized; 04-12-2012 at 02:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    I didn't shoot down any opposing ideas other than casual play and inventory.

    I've been a Project Manager for just over 6 years and with a tech team of 8 members.
    Wow, I mean I was willing to believe you were just some min/maxing snob but if there is any way in the world someone would hire a project manager that selectively ignores feedback and outright refuses to have any kind of conversation...

    I just can't believe this. If it's even the slightest bit true, I want the name of your company so I can be sure not to ever purchase anything they produce.

    Really...

    (By the way, characterizing opposing ideas with negatively charged phrases in an attempt to justify why you disagree is hardly objective by any definition of the word.)

    I'm sorry, I'm calling this thread now. There is just no way the OP isn't trololololing us all.
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