Legitimate reasons why many of you do NOT like Gear Swapping

[Peptaru]

I'd go more with: People want to be able to be successful while overcoming their weaknesses through choice and skill. If you can gear swap for every single spell, there is no weakness to account for. It tells me they just want an even easier easy mode than we have now. I'm sorry if XIV is too hard for you without gear swaps!

[Kiroh]

Being an elitist doesn't make you a self-righteous asshole. Being a self-righteous asshole does. Stop putting every elitist into some "your a fing douche" category. I consider myself an elitist. I do not however care whether or not someone has good gear or not. Only that I do. And I certainly don't try to rub it in thier face. "ohoho i did 1 more damage then you.. hahaha l2p fing noob!" Really...? I don't understand how someone can act like that... elitist or not.

I'd think if that were true you'd have found better ways to make your character stronger without asking SE to add a system they have no interest of adding to the game.

Also, I know devs don't like getting involved in threads where players ask for things, but can we please get a community rep in here to tell the OP that Yoshi has already said no and it's still the position of the dev team that "NO!" ?

[illriginalized]

People hate assholes who treat everyone that doesn't parse like they're garbage.

The reason for parsing, at least for me, is to find what stats are best in varying situations. It has nothing to do with comparing who is better than who.. I only parse myself, if there's people in my PT who want to know the results then I'll post them.. otherwise again, parsing is for MY use only.

I'd go more with: People want to be able to be successful while overcoming their weaknesses through choice and skill. If you can gear swap for every single spell, there is no weakness to account for. It tells me they just want an even easier easy mode than we have now. I'm sorry if XIV is too hard for you without gear swaps!

Well asking 1 BLM to get on their Thunder build and another BLM to get on their Fire build isn't exactly efficient..

Also part of the reason why I want stat swapping is for the sake of soloing. I think it's bad enough that BLM can't cure themselves besides second wind for example.. everything has to be duo or trio or full pt. What if I wanted to farm big game because it has a higher drop rate? Instead I have to spend even more time grinding on mobs just to get crafting materials.

I dunno, I like being self sufficient. I like not having to depend on others every single time I log in.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

I am torn on the gear swapping issue.

On one hand:
• I like the idea of maximizing my performance when healing/buffing/nuking
• I like the ability to react to dynamic events by changing to the appropriate gear for the situation.
• I like the idea of having more equipment I can hunt down and obtain
• Gear would not have an ultimate best in slot per Job so it would end the BIS slot should be drop vs. crafted argument

On the other
• I hated losing target and the blinky thing that happens when you change
• Makes no sense that I change my pants in the middle of battle
• Stress on my inventory
• I would rather use abilities than swap gear during fights

[Kiroh]

The reason for parsing, at least for me, is to find what stats are best in varying situations. It has nothing to do with comparing who is better than who.. I only parse myself, if there's people in my PT who want to know the results then I'll post them.. otherwise again, parsing is for MY use only.

Well then that went over your head. If you don't parse you don't see the huge differences in gear swapping.

But haaaaiiiii I guess that's just too much brain power for many of us

I don't even have to post anything, I can rebut you with your own comments. =)

[illriginalized]

I don't even have to post anything, I can rebut you with your own comments. =)

Wat?

I guess you don't do so well in statistics nor any sciences, eh?

That's fine.

You're telling me that gear swapping would only have the benefit of having a slight higher DPS than someone else. This is illogical... Parsing is primarily to find the numbers in YOUR own character and job/class. And DPS is just a small fraction of what I care about.

Parsing opens the door to understanding how stats work at what point/situation, against what mobs, gear or better yet stat swapping is supplemented for a better output.

As I've said before, SE would be wasting data if they came out with haste gear. Especially if it's gear that is not meldable.

[Wynn]

It is true that Yoshi and team certainly could change their mind regarding gear swap. In fact he even said, if it was found to was needed, they would add it.

However there seems to be a confusion between the concepts of necessity and want. Gear swapping in any form is not a necessity that, in its absence, makes XIV (or any other MMO for that matter) unplayable.

It is also not some unimportant fluff that people can choose to ignore if they want to. We're not talking bunny girls here. We're talking integral game mechanics that will alter the game significantly. When someone can come up with a reason that provides a logical and tangible benefit to the game as a whole, as opposed to just personal benefits, I'm sure they will reconsider it.

I've yet to see that, however, and sincerely doubt I ever will.

Even if someone did come up with a brilliant reason you then still have to address all the negatives that come with allowing your players to min/max and meta-game your content like that.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Just saying...

[Kiroh]

It is true that Yoshi and team certainly could change their mind regarding gear swap. In fact he even said, if it was found to was needed, they would add it.

However there seems to be a confusion between the concepts of necessity and want. Gear swapping in any form is not a necessity that, in its absence, makes XIV (or any other MMO for that matter) unplayable.

It is also not some unimportant fluff that people can choose to ignore if they want to. We're not talking bunny girls here. We're talking integral game mechanics that will alter the game significantly. When someone can come up with a reason that provides a logical and tangible benefit to the game as a whole, as opposed to just personal benefits, I'm sure they will reconsider it.

I've yet to see that, however, and sincerely doubt I ever will.

Even if someone did come up with a brilliant reason you then still have to address all the negatives that come with allowing your players to min/max and meta-game your content like that.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Just saying...

I love you Wynn, you bastard. Why did you leave me?!?!

Wat?

I guess you don't do so well in statistics nor any sciences, eh?

So now it's "if you don't understand that my way is superior, you must be an idiot that can't understand simple mathematics at all"?

But yeah no, you're totally helping your cause by insulting people who don't feel the need to parse everything and crunch numbers 24/7 to enjoy the game.

Do go on. =)

[illriginalized]

I love you Wynn, you bastard. Why did you leave me?!?!




So now it's "if you don't understand that my way is superior, you must be an idiot that can't understand simple mathematics at all"?

But yeah no, you're totally helping your cause by insulting people who don't feel the need to parse everything and crunch numbers 24/7 to enjoy the game.

Do go on. =)

By your logic... then there's no need for stats. Might as well put in a petition to abolish stats as they are just useless information that no one wants to bother with.

[SwordCoheir]

By your logic... then there's no need for stats. Might as well put in a petition to abolish stats as they are just useless information that no one wants to bother with.

I know your being sarcastic, but tbh most stats require almost absurd numbers to yield decent returns (IE: needing +30 Crit. Rate to increase your actual Crit. rate by 1%.) The fact so much of a stat is needed to be noticeable, is probably how naked Ifrit/Mog runs are even doable to begin with, since gear is supplementing native stats. Along with the very limited capability to obtain/stack some stats in this game it really makes it difficult to determine if swapping gear is even worth the effort to begin with. At least at this point in the game.