4 Paired Threads: AST - How do you feel about it?

[Renathras]

No, no, that's a fair question.

Thank you for the reply, appreciate it.

Not trying to cut it short, it does seem you and ASkellington's dislike of some abilities seems to be far less on the abilities themselves being good or bad and more...let's call it frustration?...with what AST was/could be to you. I think you kind of say that here as well. So that makes sense to me. Sort of a "I don't hate you for anything you did personally, I just resent you due to what I associate with you" kind of a thing?

Taurochole heals up front, meaning if a person is at or near full health, the heal isn't as useful. Exaltation reduces damage taken and then heals on the back end. And due specifically to AST's kit, if the target is low health initially, you can weave an Essential Dignity into an Exaltation and first top the person off, then have them survive the hit, then heal on the back end. If you want to go ham, you can also give them an Intersection to top off their health if Dignity didn't and give them a bit more protection for the attack.

I dunno, I guess I take them in the context of the whole kits and Exaltation feels more generally useful to me, though it depends a lot on the specific situation going on.

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But again, not challenging your views, just trying to understand them. I can't imagine them ever giving AST "in combat sect swapping", even if they did return Noct (old AST never had it, either), since then it would just stomp all over other healer Jobs (even more than it already does). So I don't really see Neutral being due to that, and Neutral was added before sects were removed, so I don't think it was due to players complaining about that.

[Shurrikhan]

Not trying to cut it short, it does seem you and ASkellington's dislike of some abilities seems to be far less on the abilities themselves being good or bad and more...let's call it frustration?...with what AST was/could be to you. I think you kind of say that here as well. So that makes sense to me. Sort of a "I don't hate you for anything you did personally, I just resent you due to what I associate with you" kind of a thing?

Kind of. But that wouldn't be the case if their presence didn't also stymy/preclude a return to or revitalization of the things I preferred over them.

E.g.
Maybe someone else stole my shit and you're just standing with your stuff blocking my only way to follow, but given that you uniquely prevent my trying to get my shit, I'm going to be annoyed that you're blocking the path for an extended time if/when you didn't to even if you did not personally steal my shit. Or, say, we lost a uniquely vital worker because we refused to give her benefits despite working her over 40 hours per week, and now we're saddled with a clueless intern who we're told will work just as well but has turned out to be mostly incapable of effort or learning, and any push to hire her back is met with "But we have Timmy now!"

That's about how I feel about Celestial Intersection, Neutral Sect, Exaltation, etc., replacing and precluding a more fleshed out Card system and Sect-swapping.