Legitimate reasons why many of you do NOT like Gear Swapping

[StateAlchemist]

Why are you quoting XI fights? This is XIV, these mobs and fights are not present in the game, nor is the need for gear swapping. It's not because XI had gear swaps as strategy for fighting that every MMO should do it too. There is plenty of ways to make a fight dynamic. Instead of swaping gear to adapt to a change in battle, why not just use your head and adapt the way you fight, skill used etc instead?

Because if a BLM goes in geared to land stun/heavy/bind/dot he can't deal anywhere near enough damage. If a WHM goes in to max cure, their pro/stoneskin suffers... obviously blm will gear for damage, obviously a whm will gear for cure. How many WHM's you see runnign around with a Tremor Wand with VIT materia on it? How many BLM's you see stacking nothing but magic accuracy and PIE? Few to none. SO what is the point of having abilities that will be totally unreliable/rarely used unless you can swap some gear to make it viable?

[Onidemon]

Because if a BLM goes in geared to land stun/heavy/bind/dot he can't deal anywhere near enough damage. If a WHM goes in to max cure, their pro/stoneskin suffers... obviously blm will gear for damage, obviously a whm will gear for cure. How many WHM's you see runnign around with a Tremor Wand with VIT materia on it? How many BLM's you see stacking nothing but magic accuracy and PIE? Few to none. SO what is the point of having abilities that will be totally unreliable/rarely used unless you can swap some gear to make it viable?

You do realize your solution is a quote of XI? Because the other mmos out there are all using gear swaps, nobody but XI has a solution to these don't they? I never realized how broken all mmo where compared to XI....

So instead of using a million of other way to fix what you mentioned above, ways used in tons of other games, we should just take crap from XI, a solution that is inferior to anything else out there... is that it?

Seriously, i get that some people love XI and enjoy it's features but you people need to go out there and try other MMORPGs, there a lot of good ones and all have different styles. XIV is not XI and will not be. So every time we got something needing fix, use your head and try to come up with an original solution instead of just asking to copy/paste XI.

[StateAlchemist]

You do realize your solution is a quote of XI? Because the other mmos out there are all using gear swaps, nobody but XI has a solution to these don't they? I never realized how broken all mmo where compared to XI....

So instead of using a million of other way to fix what you mentioned above, ways used in tons of other games, we should just take crap from XI, a solution that is inferior to anything else out there... is that it?

Seriously, i get that some people love XI and enjoy it's features but you people need to go out there and try other MMORPGs, there a lot of good ones and all have different styles. XIV is not XI and will not be. So every time we got something needing fix, use your head and try to come up with an original solution instead of just asking to copy/paste XI.

So instead of offering a solution yourself you personally attack someone else's. Lemme guess you'd rather them just make some uber gear that has +999 to every stat that way everything works all the time! Yay!

Let's hear it Einstein what's your magical non-gear swapping solution to being able to make all aspects of a job viable whenever a player chooses to utilize it? Hmmm?

[Molly_Millions]

Let's turn this conversation around for a moment. So what is gear swapping a solution to other than not having it in XIV right now?

[StateAlchemist]

Let's turn this conversation around for a moment. So what is gear swapping a solution to other than not having it in XIV right now?

It's the solution to having to choose between damage and enfeebles on BLM. Better cures or better Enhancement Magic on CNJ. Faster TP Gain + More Weaponskills vs. Higher auto-attack damage/less but slightly more powerful weaponskills on MNK...etc etc... Being able to swap on the fly efficiently in battle as a blm to go from dealing damage to needing to land a sleep/bind/heavy (guarenteed) to save parties ass from sure defeat... being able to make a stoneskin last a lot longer midfight to help mitigate pulling too much hate from cures while still being able to cure at full potential... there is a lot of things there. (Gear swapping may even allow some fights to be done with ONE WHM instead of the standard TWO.)

And of course I am sure you can come up with some whatever comment to make it seem like none of this matters. But the point is it matters to some people. Adding it to the game will not be saying "Do this or gtfo." Since obviously enough people don't like it.

[Molly_Millions]

It's the solution to having to choose between damage and enfeebles on BLM. Better cures or better Enhancement Magic on CNJ. Faster TP Gain + More Weaponskills vs. Higher auto-attack damage/less but slightly more powerful weaponskills on MNK...etc etc... Being able to swap on the fly efficiently in battle as a blm to go from dealing damage to needing to land a sleep/bind/heavy (guarenteed) to save parties ass from sure defeat... being able to make a stoneskin last a lot longer midfight to help mitigate pulling too much hate from cures while still being able to cure at full potential... there is a lot of things there. (Gear swapping may even allow some fights to be done with ONE WHM instead of the standard TWO.)

And of course I am sure you can come up with some whatever comment to make it seem like none of this matters. But the point is it matters to some people. Adding it to the game will not be saying "Do this or gtfo." Since obviously enough people don't like it.

So what you're saying is, that gear swapping keeps us from having to make a strategic decision on how to gear our characters before battle. Why do you think that is a benefit?

[StateAlchemist]

So what you're saying is, that gear swapping keeps us from having to make a strategic decision on how to gear our characters before battle. Why do you think that is a benefit?

No I am saying that lack of gear swapping keeps us from ever using certain aspects of the game because they are too situational. Look at incapacitations... How many people go into Ifrit and use them? How many people go into Chimera and use them? Some? Probably...but very few. You know why? Because SE makes it so easy just to ignore it. I would rather not just 'ignore' something my job can do just because there will never be a situation where I need it full time in a battle. Or are you saying I should just pipe down and wait god knows how long before they release a fight where BLM sleep is more important then BLM damage? Important enough that I charge into battle in nothing but PIE/Enfeebling Magic Potency/Magic Accuracy gear?

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

So what you're saying is, that gear swapping keeps us from having to make a strategic decision on how to gear our characters before battle. Why do you think that is a benefit?

It adds another layer of complexity. During the thick of battle you have to properly manage your gear and actions in response to whatever it is your fighting. Not only is it a measure of your skill but also your achievements (the variety of gear you have).

Gear swaps add another layer that interacts with skill to allow people to really achieve amazing results. If you played FFXI you should know of Avesta the Red Mage who could solo HNMs because he was so skilled and adept at managing his gear swaps.

[Rog226]

The point of an MMO is to play with people. If you want to socialize and make friends go on Facebook or dating site.

I'm not supposed to make friends in this game? Oh my... I feel kinda sad for you. Why would you not want to interact with the people that you're playing with? Why limit making friends to only Facebook and dating sites? If you wanna be an anti-social player who doesn't want to make friends while playing, then that's your thing... I guess. But don't tell Alexis to go somewhere else if she wants to make friends in this game. I don't see anything wrong with people doing that.

ANYWAY, back on topic...
The only problem that I foresee with gear swapping is that it's just ANOTHER THING people will have to conform to in order to play certain event/raid/etc., and elitists would force others to think and play like them or tell those players to gtfo. I saw it happen in FFXI, so don't tell me that this wouldn't happen here.

Also, SE game designers designed FFXIV content without the need for swapping gear. They already said that they will not promote gear-swapping. So, instead of worrying about what gear to swap in, how about we just complete the content the way it was meant to be played? Plan ahead, enter battle with the gear you need, and win the fight. Really, it's that simple. You wanna be awesome by using your character's job's full potential? Well, show people YOUR full potential by planning ahead and creating a strategy with the people you're playing with.

It's already annoying enough that people demand that I have certain abilities learned before playing with them. I don't need people telling me that I need to swap in gear during the middle of the battle while already trying to keep up with the fast pace of things.

[StateAlchemist]

I'm not supposed to make friends in this game? Oh my... I feel kinda sad for you. Why would you not want to interact with the people that you're playing with? Why limit making friends to only Facebook and dating sites? If you wanna be an anti-social player who doesn't want to make friends while playing, then that's your thing... I guess. But don't tell Alexis to go somewhere else if she wants to make friends in this game. I don't see anything wrong with people doing that.

ANYWAY, back on topic...
The only problem that I foresee with gear swapping is that it's just ANOTHER THING people will have to conform to in order to play certain event/raid/etc., and elitists would force others to think and play like them or tell those players to gtfo. I saw it happen in FFXI, so don't tell me that this wouldn't happen here.

Also, SE game designers designed FFXIV content without the need for swapping gear. They already said that they will not promote gear-swapping. So, instead of worrying about what gear to swap in, how about we just complete the content the way it was meant to be played? Plan ahead, enter battle with the gear you need, and win the fight. Really, it's that simple. You wanna be awesome by using your character's job's full potential? Well, show people YOUR full potential by planning ahead and creating a strategy with the people you're playing with.

It's already annoying enough that people demand that I have certain abilities learned before playing with them. I don't need people telling me that I need to swap in gear during the middle of the battle while already trying to keep up with the fast pace of things.

First of all you will NEVER avoid situations where elitistssome pricks will try to exclude you for some reason.

Second, you probably already know who those people are. You are either like them or your not. If you are, what's the problem? If you aren't you probably don't do anything with them anyway. So what's the problem???