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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    So we can finally watch Netflix during the dungeon and press a Cure 2 every 30 seconds guilt-free. Now THIS is peak gameplay.
    No, it would exacerbate the problem and force SE's hand, while also nipping that stupid healers should DPS thing in the bud. Healers DPS because they are bored, not because they want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    No, it would exacerbate the problem and force SE's hand, while also nipping that stupid healers should DPS thing in the bud. Healers DPS because they are bored, not because they want to.
    I think you will get mixed results. Some are so used to healers being half-dps and they really enjoy this part of them. It's kind of like in other games where some healer classes did damage in downtime.

    I personally liked more complex and challenging healing, status effect management, debuff applications and cc that other MMOs gave healer classes, but FFXIV combat just isn't that complex overall to give us more meaningful activities.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    It's kind of like in other games where some healer classes did damage in downtime.
    Like the quintessential healer, the D&D cleric, who probably spends more time hitting things with a mace than actually healing?
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Like the quintessential healer, the D&D cleric, who probably spends more time hitting things with a mace than actually healing?
    ????? Are you not casting sacred flame

    Way better than a mace hit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    ????? Are you not casting sacred flame

    Way better than a mace hit
    No, because I'm casting Inflict Wounds, 3d10 Necrotic damage let's go.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-16-2023 at 02:23 AM.

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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    ????? Are you not casting sacred flame

    Way better than a mace hit
    That very much depends on whatever you're fighting. The unfortunate thing about Sacred Flame (and similar cantrips) is that it targets DEX and most things have that stat pretty high.
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think you will get mixed results. Some are so used to healers being half-dps and they really enjoy this part of them. It's kind of like in other games where some healer classes did damage in downtime.

    I personally liked more complex and challenging healing, status effect management, debuff applications and cc that other MMOs gave healer classes, but FFXIV combat just isn't that complex overall to give us more meaningful activities.
    It's more the norm in all the games where's I've played a healer to have DPS options- depending upon the content and the party composition , going as full heal, hybrid heal/DPS, or even full DPS could be options, with a good, geared healer DPS in one game being equivalent to about 90% of the best caster DPS.

    I personally like being able to juggle both healing and DPSing, and would find FFXIV more interesting if they threw in more status effect management and CC during combat as you say. I find that much more interesting that "dodge an AOE- dodge THIS AOE. No- THAT AOE, you lagged . " repeat the dance ad nauseum, and faster. Congratulations, you've mastered the fight.
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