So it's probably best that the side that keeps dragging this years discussion up to do this same merry go round should stop right? Since they can't seem to take critiques of their points and there is no swaying them and it just descends into to this circle jerk.
The only thing I'd disagree on with Cilia is that yes, people can be wrong and it's okay to say that regardless of weather or not they want to change their stance. Given the matter at hand it's perfectly fine to not like Venat or not think the reasons given in the story are good enough. All well in good. You can't just dismiss that though. To do so is to be incorrect.