Enmity Management, Do we want it back?

[Dzian]

The problem is if you envison the combat system as a lovely bowl of delicious stew. then what the devs have basically done over the years is take all the ingrediants out.

emnity may have been the potatoes,
TP the carrots,
MP the leaks,
Debuffs, the beans,
old ast cards the lentils,
cleric stance the onion.
etc etc. All added together made a fairly nice tasty stew.

what the combat sytem has become in recent XIV is nothing more than a bowl of water.. and if all they did was add emnity back then it becomes just a rather boring bowl of boiled potatoes and still lacking all the other ingrediants that made it tasty and flavoursome.

any one ingrediant on its own doesnt make or break a combat system it's how they all work together. and you can't make a delicous bowl of stew without a delicious mix of ingrediants.

[DRKoftheAzure]

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I play on the Crystal Data Center and... let's just say that the players there are "special" and that's the nicest way I can put it...

And I think you have to play on Crystal Data Center for long enough to even understand why I would want enmity management to come back...

The problem is if you envision the combat system as a lovely bowl of delicious stew. then what the devs have basically done over the years is take all the ingredients out.

enmity may have been the potatoes,
TP the carrots,
MP the leaks,
Debuffs, the beans,
old ast cards the lentils,
cleric stance the onion.
etc., etc.
All added together made a fairly nice tasty stew.

what the combat system has become in recent XIV is nothing more than a bowl of water.. and if all they did was add emnity back then it becomes just a rather boring bowl of boiled potatoes and still lacking all the other ingredients that made it tasty and flavorful.

any one ingredient on its own doesn't make or break a combat system it's how they all work together. and you can't make a delicious bowl of stew without a delicious mix of ingredients.

In regards to the food analogy, I would have gone with the "you ask for the chef to make grilled cheese sandwich and they make a culinary monstrosity instead" but the Stew analogy works too... though old AST cards coming back would need their own separate thread(if one doesn't exist already) on the healer forums, same with Cleric stance, which then raise the question; what part of the game is the meat and what kind of meat...?

[Rithy255]

In regards to the food analogy, I would have gone with the "you ask for the chef to make grilled cheese sandwich and they make a culinary monstrosity instead" but the Stew analogy works too... though old AST cards coming back would need their own separate thread(if one doesn't exist already) on the healer forums, same with Cleric stance, which then raise the question; what part of the game is the meat and what kind of meat...?

The Meat of the combat system would obviously be the rotations and stuff, that we still have in game but the meat on its own isn't as good with the ingredients added in, also the meat is left overs from shadowbringers a bit stale... and did i find a fly in the meat??? aka the 120 raid buff system and burst meta.

But what we need is fresh food, a new take on combat is strongly needed, not just tank aggro management but in general we need those ingredients that make the combat actually enjoyable, Tanks need more Varity and just more to do other then being defensive DPS, healers also need varity but in the opposite direction more buttons to press! old astro or at least something similar...

Personally I hope we don't get more leftovers from shadow bringers, SHB was fun! But a watered down version of the same thing gets stale and boring really quickly, Right now i See they either double down on the SHB "leftovers" or actually make us something fresh and new.