Manderville Relic Criticism

[Gullis]

I don't get the idea that everyone needs to get a relic. If you think the grind is too bad, then simply don't get it? Not like you need it.

When everyone is running around with relics, they don't really feel like relics

[Saraide]

I don't get the idea that everyone needs to get a relic. If you think the grind is too bad, then simply don't get it? Not like you need it.

When everyone is running around with relics, they don't really feel like relics

So you hate how the relics look and only get them because of how exclusive you think they should feel?

[Reinha]

So you hate how the relics look and only get them because of how exclusive you think they should feel?

Their charm was not that they were exclusive, it was that they were earned. Tome weapon #2 carries none of that appeal. It's redundant because we already have tome weapons.

[Saraide]

Their charm was not that they were exclusive, it was that they were earned. Tome weapon #2 carries none of that appeal. It's redundant because we already have tome weapons.

But you do hate how they look?

[Gullis]

So you hate how the relics look and only get them because of how exclusive you think they should feel?

I get them mainly for looks, but also because it's something work towards, a goal. I don't really like the look of any of the new relics so far, but they are a free ilvl uppgrades so might aswell pick them up, as they are free. My issue is it just doesn't feel like i'm really working towards anything, feels more like I just get relics for just logging in
I just don't see why having some optional long term goals is a bad thing, do people really hate actually playing this game so much? EW offers no long term goals for casual players, that likes combat oriented content. I just want something that lasts for more than 2-3 days.

[Saraide]

I get them mainly for looks, but also because it's something work towards, a goal. I don't really like the look of any of the new relics so far, but they are a free ilvl uppgrades so might aswell pick them up, as they are free. My issue is it just doesn't feel like i'm really working towards anything, feels more like I just get relics for just logging in
I just don't see why having some optional long term goals is a bad thing, do people really hate actually playing this game so much? EW offers no long term goals for casual players, that likes combat oriented content. I just want something that lasts for more than 2-3 days.

If you really wanna just play casual combat content literally nothing is stopping you from doing that. Hell, I can come up with a set of goals for you if you dont want to decide yourself.

[Gullis]

If you really wanna just play casual combat content literally nothing is stopping you from doing that. Hell, I can come up with a set of goals for you if you dont want to decide yourself.

okay please do, and make them EW relevant, because this is the expansion I am subbing for of course

[Saraide]

okay please do, and make them EW relevant, because this is the expansion I am subbing for of course

It's a lot of endwalker but not exclusively. Hope you have fun with it:

Totally real relic (I promise((I am lying on the internet))):
Step 1:
Defeat 8 porxies and 8 porxie poachers in Il Mehg.
Clear the dungeon Matoya's relic
Defeat Barbariccia, Rubicante and Scarmiglione

Step 2:
Complete 5 different Fates each in the 6 endwalker zones OR defeat Chi one time
Obtain 75 Lunatender Blossoms
Complete the fate chain The Dataqi Chronicles
Complete 12 Arkasodra Daily quests OR 6 Custom Deliveries for Ameliance

Step 3:
Complete the Dungeons Vanaspati, Smileton and Sigma Dreamscape
Defeat Golbez and complete 5 additional lvl 60 or above trials
(each completion with daily bonus of duty roulettes normal raid or trial can count as one trial)
Complete any one of the following:
Complete all 3 ARR alliance raids once, Complete the tower at paradigm's breach, Complete Dun scaith, Complete The Orbonne Monastery, Complete Aglaia

Step 4:
Obtain 1 Weapon token each from P4, P8 and P12
Accumulate 50 points from the following list:
Shadowbringer dungeon = 2 points
Shadowbringer normal raid = 4 points
Endwalker trial = 1 points
Endwalker alliance raid = 5 points
Endwalker extreme trial = 6 points
Variant dungeon = 5 points
Leveling roulette daily bonus = 6 points
Dungeon roulette lvl 90 = 6 points

Step 5:
Obtain one Grade X Combat Materia of every kind
Open 6 lvl 90 Treasure Maps OR Reach the final stage in either lvl 90 treasure map once
Open 8 Materiel Container 4.0 from your current Grand Company
Obtain 3 Manderium Meteorite

Step 6:
Complete 12 different normal raids from the combined of Endwalker and Shadowbringer OR any one Endwalker Savage raid
Accumulate 30 points from the following list:
HW normal raid = 3 points
SB normal raid = 3 points
HW alliance raids = 5 points
SB alliance raids = 5 points
EW alliance raid = 5 points

Step 7:
Complete duty roulette lvl 50-80 Dungeons 5 times OR defeat any 3 Eureka Orthos bosses
Complete duty roulette trials 5 times OR defeat any 3 PotD bosses
Obtain 3 chunks of complementary chrondite

Step 8:
Obtain 3 Amplifying Achondrite
Defeat the bosses Zodiark, Hydaelyn and Endsinger in their trials OR one of them in the extreme version
Clear all 3 routes in one endwalker Variant dungeons OR clear any one Criterion dungeon
Complete 20 fates in any endwalker or shadowbringer zone OR complete all 3 Blue carnival weekly targets in one week
(report back to me so I can congratulate you on your success )

Every step in order, every instanced combat synched, things to buy need to be bought at the step they come up at so no counting of your already bought ew relic mats (because I cant code in new items into the game)

[Gullis]

It's a lot of endwalker but not exclusively. Hope you have fun with it:

Totally real relic (I promise((I am lying on the internet))):
Step 1:
Defeat 8 porxies and 8 porxie poachers in Il Mehg.
Clear the dungeon Matoya's relic
Defeat Barbariccia, Rubicante and Scarmiglione

Step 2:
Complete 5 different Fates each in the 6 endwalker zones OR defeat Chi one time
Obtain 75 Lunatender Blossoms
Complete the fate chain The Dataqi Chronicles
Complete 12 Arkasodra Daily quests OR 6 Custom Deliveries for Ameliance

Step 3:
Complete the Dungeons Vanaspati, Smileton and Sigma Dreamscape
Defeat Golbez and complete 5 additional lvl 60 or above trials
(each completion with daily bonus of duty roulettes normal raid or trial can count as one trial)
Complete any one of the following:
Complete all 3 ARR alliance raids once, Complete the tower at paradigm's breach, Complete Dun scaith, Complete The Orbonne Monastery, Complete Aglaia

Step 4:
Obtain 1 Weapon token each from P4, P8 and P12
Accumulate 50 points from the following list:
Shadowbringer dungeon = 2 points
Shadowbringer normal raid = 4 points
Endwalker trial = 1 points
Endwalker alliance raid = 5 points
Endwalker extreme trial = 6 points
Variant dungeon = 5 points
Leveling roulette daily bonus = 6 points
Dungeon roulette lvl 90 = 6 points

Step 5:
Obtain one Grade X Combat Materia of every kind
Open 6 lvl 90 Treasure Maps OR Reach the final stage in either lvl 90 treasure map once
Open 8 Materiel Container 4.0 from your current Grand Company
Obtain 3 Manderium Meteorite

Step 6:
Complete 12 different normal raids from the combined of Endwalker and Shadowbringer OR any one Endwalker Savage raid
Accumulate 30 points from the following list:
HW normal raid = 3 points
SB normal raid = 3 points
HW alliance raids = 5 points
SB alliance raids = 5 points
EW alliance raid = 5 points

Step 7:
Complete duty roulette lvl 50-80 Dungeons 5 defeat any 3 Eureka Orthos bosses
Complete duty roulette trials 5 times OR times OR defeat any 3 PotD bosses
Obtain 3 chunks of complementary chrondite

Step 8:
Obtain 3 Amplifying Achondrite
Defeat the bosses Zodiark, Hydaelyn and Endsinger in their trials OR one of them in the extreme version
Clear all 3 routes in one endwalker Variant dungeons OR clear any one Criterion dungeon
Complete 20 fates in any endwalker or shadowbringer zone OR complete all 3 Blue carnival weekly targets in one week
(report back to me so I can congratulate you on your success )

Every step in order, every instanced combat synched, things to buy need to be bought at the step they come up at so no counting of your already bought ew relic mats (because I cant code in new items into the game)

Nice work. They should put you in charge of the 7.0 relic (i'm actually serious)
Ill get working

[Reinha]

It's a lot of endwalker but not exclusively. Hope you have fun with it:

Going by time stamps it took you 3 hours max to come up with this. Now, I wonder why the dev getting paid to develop this content couldn't be bothered to spend less than a day's work to develop something more complex than 4 X 1500 tomestones that could've lasted an entire expansion.