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    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
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    Eileen White
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    Manderville Relic Criticism

    The past few expansions, we’ve had quests and lengthy areas to play in to obtain relics - whether it be ARR/HW Crafting, SB Eureka, ShB Bozja, or any of the steps that involve replaying old content - it’s nowhere to be found with this relic. All it is is a glorified Tomestone grind. 4500 Tomestone and you have your relic for the expansion.

    At the very least, I expected SOME modicum of effort to be put into this final step, but woe is the man who expects anything from the past two HILDIBRAND patches. Yes, they can be funny and you have to go through a lot of old stuff - but it isn’t that long in comparison to other relics.

    For 7.0 relic, they need to bring back the grind.
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    Dave Brasher
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    I feel the reason they're doing it this way is because a lot of people jump around to many different classes, so they decided to make it easier to grind for all of them rather than just one.

    I'm not the biggest fan of it either though. But I get it.
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    Amh Wilzuun
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Det40 View Post
    I feel the reason they're doing it this way is because a lot of people jump around to many different classes, so they decided to make it easier to grind for all of them rather than just one.

    I'm not the biggest fan of it either though. But I get it.
    The solution to this is to streamline the process of getting Manderville weapons after the first one you complete, not gimp the initial quest.
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    Gray Lowell
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    The past few expansions, we’ve had quests and lengthy areas to play in to obtain relics - whether it be ARR/HW Crafting, SB Eureka, ShB Bozja, or any of the steps that involve replaying old content - it’s nowhere to be found with this relic. All it is is a glorified Tomestone grind. 4500 Tomestone and you have your relic for the expansion.

    At the very least, I expected SOME modicum of effort to be put into this final step, but woe is the man who expects anything from the past two HILDIBRAND patches. Yes, they can be funny and you have to go through a lot of old stuff - but it isn’t that long in comparison to other relics.

    For 7.0 relic, they need to bring back the grind.
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but this step is not the last one. 665 weapon will be.

    So the relic in total will be 6000 tomes
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayLowell View Post
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but this step is not the last one. 665 weapon will be.

    So the relic in total will be 6000 tomes
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
    750 tomes instead of 1500
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    Listrella's Avatar
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    Astrella Riverstar
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
    why would they change it, every stage has been a victory lap.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
    You get it in a mogmail when 6.55 drops. At this point, I don't even know how much satire that actually is.
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    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
    well if the way everything has been going lately just log in and you get it
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    Larc Grumbles
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Counterpoint, I love that I can choose to grind tomes in whatever I want instead of their narrow prescribed list of new thing I may hate or specific old content.

    Especially in a game of now 19 jobs. Relics can much more easily be accessed for players interested in gearing alternate jobs for current content.
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