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    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100

    Manderville Relic Criticism

    The past few expansions, we’ve had quests and lengthy areas to play in to obtain relics - whether it be ARR/HW Crafting, SB Eureka, ShB Bozja, or any of the steps that involve replaying old content - it’s nowhere to be found with this relic. All it is is a glorified Tomestone grind. 4500 Tomestone and you have your relic for the expansion.

    At the very least, I expected SOME modicum of effort to be put into this final step, but woe is the man who expects anything from the past two HILDIBRAND patches. Yes, they can be funny and you have to go through a lot of old stuff - but it isn’t that long in comparison to other relics.

    For 7.0 relic, they need to bring back the grind.
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    Dave Brasher
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I feel the reason they're doing it this way is because a lot of people jump around to many different classes, so they decided to make it easier to grind for all of them rather than just one.

    I'm not the biggest fan of it either though. But I get it.
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  3. #3
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    GrayLowell's Avatar
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    Gray Lowell
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    The past few expansions, we’ve had quests and lengthy areas to play in to obtain relics - whether it be ARR/HW Crafting, SB Eureka, ShB Bozja, or any of the steps that involve replaying old content - it’s nowhere to be found with this relic. All it is is a glorified Tomestone grind. 4500 Tomestone and you have your relic for the expansion.

    At the very least, I expected SOME modicum of effort to be put into this final step, but woe is the man who expects anything from the past two HILDIBRAND patches. Yes, they can be funny and you have to go through a lot of old stuff - but it isn’t that long in comparison to other relics.

    For 7.0 relic, they need to bring back the grind.
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but this step is not the last one. 665 weapon will be.

    So the relic in total will be 6000 tomes
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    Larc Grumbles
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Counterpoint, I love that I can choose to grind tomes in whatever I want instead of their narrow prescribed list of new thing I may hate or specific old content.

    Especially in a game of now 19 jobs. Relics can much more easily be accessed for players interested in gearing alternate jobs for current content.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GrayLowell View Post
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but this step is not the last one. 665 weapon will be.

    So the relic in total will be 6000 tomes
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    i think the stones are great.
    its nice to get while doing other content. my problem is more.... what other content? roulette stops being fun when you realize its more often than not the same few instances
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    Thea Shinri
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    Raiden
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    Samurai Lv 90
    If you want to farm something by doing essentially any roulette/duty/hunt, then you don't want to farm the relic. You merely want a bonus in form of relic for doing something you would do anyway. Relics became a mere by-product, not a goal.
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Man, remember when people were saying it'd just be the first step that was like this and we were all delusional if we thought steps 2 and 3 would be tomes as well?
    Haha
    Man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Jfc why did I even post on a bait thread, this place sucks. lol
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Most relics have an easy "victory lap" as the last step. Wonder what they're going to do with this
    750 tomes instead of 1500
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  10. #10
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    In lieu of not getting Instanced Zones this works just fine for me. I don't want some rng drop having to run this dungeon or run these fates ad nauseum to get what we need. People bitched about the zones and they were awesome hopefully we'll get them back in 7.0.
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