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    Player Troxbark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    Drag culture is not sexual. Period.
    Yeah sure, neither are strippers then. LOL
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    Personally, as a gay guy, I'm only really interested in 'representation' if it's handled tastefully and isn't played for laughs or forced where it doesn't fit. I liked the relationship between Dion and Terrence in FFXVI not only because both men are conventionally attractive and don't conform to negative, performative stereotypes but also because the story just lets their relationship play out without drawing attention to it.

    It's a vast improvement over Square Enix's attempts to promote Andrea Rhodea in Final Fantasy VIIR as 'representation' when the guy is a sex trafficker working for Don Corneo who is at no point held accountable for the part he played in sending women to their untimely demises at worst and 'playtime' with the sleazy Don Corneo at best.
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    I understand why there should be a community, I grew up tormented because of my sexuality and I would not want that on anyone [I still hear horror stories even from the young of today]. Actually, I still am not free given I have to face religious zealots putting "It's wrong to be gay" all over our car. (I once had one stalk me to the grocery store which was rather...unpleasant). Also weird given I'm from the north-east and these problems are typically not problems, and before someone says something, yes there is still hate and discrimination going on, we just tend to look the other way. The issue nowadays though I see is that, yes we need a community to prop ourselves up, but the community we have atm is just too accepting/naive (also misrepresenting) and because so, doesn't know what it actually represents. Thus it accomplishes nothing or at least not as much as it used to accomplish.

    In FFXIV, I'm not sure representation is needed although it does make for more of an immersive game play experience I guess(?) I would welcome said characters. Though immersion aside, there is already a lot of things that let's you experience that expression of freedom like clothes for example. There are a plethora of options available from dresses, gowns, what have you but there are still a lot of things that are gender-locked unfortunately. I think I would prefer those being unlocked or reinstated if they had a unique version prior but was then replaced. (Thavnairian Tights for example) {I'm still snarky about that}
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    Last edited by Katish; 07-12-2023 at 02:15 PM.

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    Ryne and Gaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    Ryne and Gaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    False equivalency.

    Are you fine with kids being exposed to strippers? That's more similar to drag than the average people you're crying about running into.
    There's nothing inherently sexual with men in drag.
    Which is the difference with strippers.

    Also I can only imagine how warped your worldview might be if you took my post as "crying". Not everything is about your stupid culture war.
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 07-12-2023 at 09:11 PM.

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    I identify as a car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NailBach View Post
    I identify as a car.
    I identify as lycanthropic vegan Godzilla. I use Yeet/shyeet pronoun.

    Please refer to me as such, otherwise it would be very …problematic
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    I identify as a disappointment.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NailBach View Post
    I identify as a car.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I identify as lycanthropic vegan Godzilla. I use Yeet/shyeet pronoun.

    Please refer to me as such, otherwise it would be very …problematic
    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I identify as a disappointment.
    Hey Yeet get in the car we are gonna meet a disappointment!
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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