What are you paying a subscription for?

[Kyrj]

EW is the first time I haven't been subbed throughout the entire expansion. I've subbed 5 times so far, once for launch and 4 more times for each patch and each one failed to have any staying power. If 7.0 looks to be more of the same I'll just spend my money elsewhere.

[Reinha]

Not sure if Guild War 2 would be up your alley either then.
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However the game is also action based and not tab targeting much like Dragon's Dogma. This means you connect only if your weapon connects when you swing it.

It's not, I tried it with a plant character once. And the combat is why. I like to select my enemy and then perform a rotation limited by the GCD that does damage based on the order of my attacks and not based on my angle, position or reflexes. The same applies to healing. Yeah, a tab targeting game and not a turn based game like I called it earlier by accident.

Another good thing is that the entire base game is F2P and the expansions are buy to own which means once you buy the expansions...you don't pay for anything else because it is not subscription based. It's a great game to have on the backburner if FFXIV seems to have a lull in content. You basically use GW2 until the next patch for 14 hits and then you jump back in.

It's not about the money. No other game offers what FFXIV does and more. Like I said, playing some inferior other game is time spent not playing the game I actually want to play. I'm not interested in doing that.

If FFXIV is enough for you though then that's great!

Oh I agree, it's great.

[ACE135]

With retainers included I pay 200 € per year. When I see that you play through some AAA games that cost 70 € in 20 hours or less, then I would say I get a lot more out of FF 14.

[Elissar]

I subscribe because i like to practice charity

I believe every billionaire should have the right to buy a yacht

[Lunalepsy]

Just a genuine question to all the players out there.

You are paying ~$112 per patch (Almost triple that if you have max retainers).

For the price of a full AAA title, is the content that XIV offers you in a single patch worth its subscription cost?

Personally i would say no, its not.
I have the maximum retainers addition, and it costs me ~$350 per patch to say subscribed to XIV, that is the cost of 4 full priced AAA new release games, for what is around a month, maybe two, worth of content.
After realizing this, i can't in good faith keep throwing money at a product that isn't receiving enough attention by its developers, player numbers between major patches fluctuate to the point where the game becomes basically unplayable in places like Materia.

So what do you spend your $112+ on per patch cycle?


EDIT: Seems i was wrong here, patches are 4 months, just feels like 8.
So i guess thats still $220/patch which is still pretty bad for the content that is released.

to AFK in town all day long. Jealous?

[Renathras]

I do believe they were referencing the cost in AUS currency. Gotta remember English forums doesn't = strictly USD when it comes to currency.

Fair enough, but then it's a good idea to define it like AUS$<number> or $<number> AUS, just as people do with CAN$/$--- CAN for Canadian dollars. The US$ is world reserve currency, and the US is far and away the largest English/Western nation state in terms of economy (top three in the world overall national economy by scale), and the world reserve status means most people are at least marginally aware of how much their currency is worth in US$ and when "$" is used with no qualifier, it's thus assumed to be US$/USD.

It would also be nice had the OP said "That's ~X in US dollars", since it being a common trade currency means it's a common reference point for others to quickly get into their own currency; like a person in England would be aware that a US$ translates to about half a Pound, give or take, for ballpark napkin math.

So while it is true that English doesn't = USA, it should be obvious that "$" said in an English setting with no qualifier is going to be assumed to be "$ US" unless specified otherwise.

It'd also be nice if the OP put into words what this translates into - Opportunity Cost, to use the technical term - for what they could buy with that instead. As I (and also CStrife912, using Pounds) pointed out, it's roughly the cost of going to see a movie (if one buys no drink or snacks) or going to a diner/fast food place and ordering a meal.

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The underlying point still remains:

If you're still paying it, it's worth it to you - and it really is a bargain compared to how much everything else costs these days.
If it's not worth it to you...why are you still here?

[Renalt]

If you're still paying it, it's worth it to you - and it really is a bargain compared to how much everything else costs these days.
If it's not worth it to you...why are you still here?

Some people want to be mad. They don't want a solution. Just mad. Mad is life for them.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I think if you play one game for 9 years it can become just part of your life and hard to let go. Maybe some sunk cost going on. I’d recommend OP start by letting go of the max retainers as a start at the very least if she’s unhappy with how much she is spending. Items you have on them probably go unused for years so clearing out items rarely or never used won’t hurt.

Should save some money and move to a basic sub if she’s not ready to fully let go.

Posts like these seems mostly about OPs personal dilemma. I’ve been there before with MMOs. Like EQ2, Aion, and ESO. Each of those games I spent over $5k on and years of time. Aside from Aion that destroyed itself, it was a hard process initially to step back.

[Kes13a]

I think if you play one game for 9 years it can become just part of your life and hard to let go. Maybe some sunk cost going on. I’d recommend OP start by letting go of the max retainers as a start at the very least if she’s unhappy with how much she is spending. Items you have on them probably go unused for years so clearing out items rarely or never used won’t hurt.

Should save some money and move to a basic sub if she’s not ready to fully let go.

Posts like these seems mostly about OPs personal dilemma. I’ve been there before with MMOs. Like EQ2, Aion, and ESO. Each of those games I spent over $5k on and years of time. Aside from Aion that destroyed itself, it was a hard process initially to step back.

it is a dilemma especially after the OP created this thread.... leads one to suspect one of these threads is not in good faith

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...it-%28FFXIV%29.

[Kaurhz]

I pay to play the game, obviously.

To keep the whole examination short, I'll just simply summarise it - Because not all people view every piece of content in the same way, and similarly what people see as content differs from person to person. There are still people who have months of 'content' just simply because of how they elect to play the game, and what they actually see as content within the game. Some people have a broader definition, and some people are more narrow with it. People with a broader perspective on 'content' will naturally have more to do than those that do not.

Edit: If I had to say, for me personally if I were to look exclusively at Endwalker then I would question how much value I get out of it - But looking at the entire game as a whole, past expansions inc., there's still enough there to warrant and justifying my purchase of a sub - After all, it is not just Endwalker that I am paying for - But who knows, that may someday change, where I selectively subscribe.