FF16 expansions/DLCs in the work? How will this affect FF14?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Sure, because Crystal Dynamics did a few hard fail games. 200m of accumulated debts have to be paid.
-> this for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel...rs_(video_game)
Despite initial strong sales, Marvel's Avengers failed to turn a profit for Square Enix, with the publisher reporting an estimated loss of $63 million for their latest fiscal period at the time.In November 2021, Square Enix president Yosuke Matsuda described Avengers as a commercial disappointment for the company. However, he affirmed that service games would be an important focus for the company in the future.

300m for the studio and its IP is not the best deal of the year, but it seems (my opinion, clearly) SE wants to move from AAA single player to "GaaS MMO videogame" and Crystal Dynamics was not able to show results, thus the sale.

But Marvels Avengers was GaaS. And the new FF games are AAA single player, so I'm not understanding what you just wrote. Oh that other game that flopped (edit: Forspoken, a 2023 game whose name I couldn't even remember) they released recently was AAA single player too.

Upon a look at their upcoming roster of games, most seem to be single player.

[TheDecay]

Leaving possible future story threads isn't them holding back. The narrative and game still works without having Leviathan in the picture. Other story driven games do this for the sake of adding extra details in their lore without needing for the game to address every single thing.

Also nobody cares about your cringy forum signature.

Leaving possible future story threads is exactly holding back. They literally said this game is a complete experience. If so why are there even possible future story threads? It's not just Leviathan. It's the Northern Territories, the Iron Kingdom, the Blight. All of these are poorly explored. The game is incomplete and the amount of unexplored threads in the lore and places that are we haven't gone to yet are indicative of only one thing: preparing for DLCs down the road.

[Nav_Fae]

Leaving possible future story threads is exactly holding back. They literally said this game is a complete experience. If so why are there even possible future story threads? It's not just Leviathan. It's the Northern Territories, the Iron Kingdom, the Blight. All of these are poorly explored. The game is incomplete and the amount of unexplored threads in the lore and places that are we haven't gone to yet are indicative of only one thing: preparing for DLCs down the road.

A complete game doesn't equate to complete story. Nothing stopping them from pulling an FF15 where they make an anime, several novels, a few movies, ect.

[DiaDeem]

XV only ever had Titan, Ramuh, Leviathan, Shiva and Bahamut.

Either way, this thread is useless.
You don't know if there's DLC, and just assume there might be, and even if there was, you have no way to know how it would affect XIV, no matter how much you think you do. Without solid facts, all you're doing is vague speculation, and if I wanted to do that, I'd have a better time speculating about Metroid Prime 4, a game I don't believe even exists.

[Atelier-Bagur]

XV only ever had Titan, Ramuh, Leviathan, Shiva and Bahamut.

Either way, this thread is useless.
You don't know if there's DLC, and just assume there might be, and even if there was, you have no way to know how it would affect XIV, no matter how much you think you do. Without solid facts, all you're doing is vague speculation, and if I wanted to do that, I'd have a better time speculating about Metroid Prime 4, a game I don't believe even exists.

FFIX had the Eidolon Wall where you saw paintings of various unknown eidolons (summons). I guess by TheDecay's logic this means that FFIX was incomplete.

[Rokke]

Leaving possible future story threads is exactly holding back. They literally said this game is a complete experience. If so why are there even possible future story threads? It's not just Leviathan. It's the Northern Territories, the Iron Kingdom, the Blight. All of these are poorly explored. The game is incomplete and the amount of unexplored threads in the lore and places that are we haven't gone to yet are indicative of only one thing: preparing for DLCs down the road.

Nothing really important happens in Iron Kingdom or The North in the Eikon War past what we get in game.

IK were effectively declawed when they lost their dominant, their crystal, and their leader. The North got simultaneously eaten by the blight and stamped out by the Empire.

Someone earlier mentioned a Royal Edition and honestly thats more in line with what I see happening eventually after the PC port. imo the only loose threads you can reasonably squeeze DLC purchases out of are:
1. Cid leaving the legion of doom and/or trying to destroy Oriflamme's crystal if they want a half-prime Dion fight I guess
2. Whatever tf happened to Levi

Regardless, XIV won't likely change much from our current content pattern. Base xpac will have 6 dungeons, 6 zones, tome caps, odd patch 24 man raids, even patch 8 man raids, etc. Could be fun to have Maehiro back as one of the writers for the .x patches tho.

[DiaDeem]

FFIX had the Eidolon Wall where you saw paintings of various unknown eidolons (summons). I guess by TheDecay's logic this means that FFIX was incomplete.

XIII only had Shiva (sisters), Odin, Brynhildr, Bahamut, Alexander, and Hecatoncheir.
I don't think it's ever been a requisite for all summons/primals/eidolons to be in every Final Fantasy.

[Ransu]

We have an extremely unbelievable claim that FF16 is standalone and no DLCs are planned, from CBU3.

Then why is Leviathan not in the game (and yes, it DOES actually exist, Joshua mentions him)? Why are there still many poorly explained bits of lore in the game (like the Blight)? Why do we barely visit many areas in the game like the Northern Territories?

Sorry, but SE said 8 elements, and we got 7. It's incredibly obvious that future DLCs ARE planned. The next FF16 DLC will involve Leviathan.

So is CBU3 actually going back to working on FF14 then? I highly doubt it. What is far more likely is that they are hard at work making the next FF16 DLC instead. FF14's Patch 7.0 will not be a revitalization, but will be yet another siphon.

Joshua: "Even Leviathan the lost is here" is what he says when looking at the mural, which means Leviathan has clearly been gone for a long time.

And what do you mean the blight is poorly explain? Have you beaten the final boss yet? The blight is explained in full.

I highly doubt this game will have DLC. It would have to take place in the middle of the game if they added it, and I have no idea where they would fit it within the story unless they plan to create an entirely new character for you to play post game.

[Catwho]

I'm also of the mind that any DLC will either take place during the time skips, or take place as a prequel.

But there are quite a few plot threads they can pick at besides Leviathan the Lost. Without getting into heavy spoilers: What was a certain character doing with his cult for those 18 years? Why exactly was Jill forced to do for the Ironbloods that gave her such a case of self loathing? What was Cid doing in Waloed and what exactly made him quit his position there?

And of course, the Greater Continent hasn't been touched at all.

The game itself felt complete. Clive's story was complete. It's all the surrounding cast who still have mysteries to explore.

[TheDecay]

Joshua: "Even Leviathan the lost is here" is what he says when looking at the mural, which means Leviathan has clearly been gone for a long time.

And what do you mean the blight is poorly explain? Have you beaten the final boss yet? The blight is explained in full.

I highly doubt this game will have DLC. It would have to take place in the middle of the game if they added it, and I have no idea where they would fit it within the story unless they plan to create an entirely new character for you to play post game.

Have YOU beaten the final boss? Ultima did NOT cause the blight. He escaped from the blight and he literally told Clive the same fate will come to Valisthea. The Blight is quite literally STILL a mystery.