Data analysis of the current housing situation

[Deo14]

You probably should have done the data analysis on EU after the upcoming auto-demolition waves. And EU is getting 8 new servers. So really the housing problems are mostly on 3 North American data centers.

I plan to get new data sometime next week after demolitions start, to see how many plots were demolished. As for EU getting 8 new servers - ye, I don't think that's good idea, it's pretty clear from Dynamis that people are not very eager to jump on entirely separate DC just for a small house (people do transfer for M or L houses, but there's only 1500 private Ms or Ls, and 400 unrestricted Ms or Ls per server, if all 30 wards are open), and that's NA, which has higher population per server than EU. And saying that only NA has housing problems - well, you have data right here, so you can make your own educated opinion.

[Reinha]

And saying that only NA has housing problems - well, you have data right here, so you can make your own educated opinion.

You literally quoted my educated opinion. EU is getting the number of servers that according to you will bring it's population density to JP levels. Which leaves... only NA.

[Deo14]

You literally quoted my educated opinion. EU is getting the number of servers that according to you will bring it's population density to JP levels. Which leaves... only NA.

Yes, most likely in 7.0 (potentially in some later 6.5X patch), which is at least year away, and demolition has been on and off since the war started. So situation was pretty bad at the very least from over a year ago, and will be bad for one more year. Once demolition finally resumes, we might have ~50 non-FC plots per cycle, similar to NA, but I still wouldn't call that good or non-problematic.

Your server had 15 plots available for private buyers (12 of them in unrestricted wards), so I really wouldn't say that "housing problems are mostly on 3 North American data centers".

You could just correct yourself and say you meant in the future, otherwise it seems like you try claim current situation in EU is good, which is clearly not.

[Crickets]

Wow Mr Moneybags! Would you mind tossing some of that gil my way? Maybe oh, say 1 mil? So I can decorate my apartment? The guy you paid 5 mil to chuckled all the way to the bank, then probably took 500k and bought one of the empty apartments in Lavender Beds. Yes, there are still empty rooms on Balmung. As of this writing I know of 50 open places in LB, Ward 30, wing 2. So, if any of you Balmungians need a room, there are still some to be found.

[whysosalty]

Housing in its current state was a mistake.

I disagree, it afforded me some really fun opportunities (check out Goblet Ward 25 sub division on Bryn for a bit of fun).

[Zarkovitch]

Housing is bad but same time construct that way to keep log in and pay monthly.

[Reinha]

Yes, most likely in 7.0 (potentially in some later 6.5X patch), which is at least year away, and demolition has been on and off since the war started. So situation was pretty bad at the very least from over a year ago, and will be bad for one more year. Once demolition finally resumes, we might have ~50 non-FC plots per cycle, similar to NA, but I still wouldn't call that good or non-problematic.

One more year? Auto demo is hitting this week and according to the official announcement the DC has been scheduled for this summer. https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8a3986554a2#06

You could just correct yourself and say you meant in the future, otherwise it seems like you try claim current situation in EU is good, which is clearly not.

I mean, you did this poor comparison of EU vs other servers that already have demolition like 3 days before EU is about to get plots that were abandoned since Dec 2021. Why? Did you forget that it was happening or did you just want to gather some data moments before it becomes irrelevant? Don't worry, I'll post again to remind you.

[Stormpeaks]

One more year? Auto demo is hitting this week and according to the official announcement the DC has been scheduled for this summer. https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8a3986554a2#06



I mean, you did this poor comparison of EU vs other servers that already have demolition like 3 days before EU is about to get plots that were abandoned since Dec 2021. Why? Did you forget that it was happening or did you just want to gather some data moments before it becomes irrelevant? Don't worry, I'll post again to remind you.

Once again we havent heard anything about the expansion for EU in a very long time, if it happens in the game's current state, be ready to see a massive split in the population, it'll be a disaster, either that, or the new DC will just be an abandoned wasteland worse than what Materia is at this point.

Also EU housing is not in a very good state, but that is also partially on the players for refusing to move to Raiden/Sagittarius, those 2 worlds with 1 on each DC have more than available housing, it's basically free real estate, you can move over and get at the very least a small shirogane plot on the first round, but people dont want to do that, they'd rather complain they dont get one on Ragnarok or on Zodiark, but that's on them, so if you see it that way, housing is fine on EU, however if you go by the "old" worlds, no it isnt fine, but the new worlds are wide open for people that want houses.

[DixieBellOCE]

TLDR: People refuse to move to new servers (No real surprise there!)

Housing is still, as it always was, a commodity that people will scoop up, but most likely never utilize. (Do a comparison with Luckybancho census data to check how many FC houses are owned by FC's with 1-4 people)

Places like Materia, you can check out Ward 2 Goblet on every single server, and see that a single Airship/Submersible BOT owns the entirety of the ward and is making ~700m/week from the subs (RMT pog!)

Conclusion? Square Enix don't care. If they did, they would Limit House ownership 1 ONE PER SERVICE ACCOUNT.

I have a large FC house, Medium Personal (And recently demolished two large personals on NA/OCE because i don't use them and somebody else will make better use of them!) And i could still go buy another 20-30 houses with zero competition. If you want a house so badly, Move servers.

FC's should have to pay a tax every month on the house, to prove they are actively playing the game (Even if it is something as simple as 1-5m company credits (Easily obtainable by 1 person in 1 month of playing)) or get evicted.

[Deo14]

One more year? Auto demo is hitting this week and according to the official announcement the DC has been scheduled for this summer. https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8a3986554a2#06



I mean, you did this poor comparison of EU vs other servers that already have demolition like 3 days before EU is about to get plots that were abandoned since Dec 2021. Why? Did you forget that it was happening or did you just want to gather some data moments before it becomes irrelevant? Don't worry, I'll post again to remind you.

So you just want me to ignore biggest current problem with EU housing to skew data to make it seem like everything is fine?

I already told you I'll rerun this in few days to see how will demolition affect it. I'm skeptic that resuming of auto demolition will fix EU housing but I'm ready to be happily surprised. I would say EU will be healthy if we had at least comparable amount of private/unrestricted plots as average JP server has, which is around 498, right now EU is at 159 with new servers included.

As others are pointing out, just adding more servers is not best solution, Sagittarius is still pretty dead even though it is on existing DC, people just don't want to swap server, or even worse, whole DC, just to get a small house. If they were to make brand new DC, it will be most likely even worse than Dynamis.