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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    So it was the latter: you did just want to gather some data a few days before it became irrelevant. That, plus not mentioning the effects of auto-demolition in your opening post, help paint a false narrative of the EU situation I guess. As you can see, despite still missing demolitions from Feb-June EU servers have hundreds of plots available to private owners. By mid August demolition will have fully caught up to other regions that already have it. Looks like everything is indeed fine.

    It would be good if SE focused their resources to fix housing in the region that actually needs a fix, which is NA. EU does not need additional wards and neither do JP or OCE.
    You know, you have all data I provided, how about you make your own analysis, where you can skew everything to make your biased conclusion that <20 private plots per old EU server is fine. Inb4 you say that "actually, if you ignore past years with demolition on and off, it's fine"



    Anyways, as promised, I've made before and after to see how many plots got demolished. That number is 6899 plots in both EU DCs. This puts both EU DCs above both Mana and Gaia in housing availability, let's see how will it turn out after few roulette cycles.

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    Google sheet with latest data (6.7.2023, after first wave of EU demolitions)

    Google sheet with demolition data

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    6.7.2023, after first wave of EU demolitions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    So situation was pretty bad at the very least from over a year ago, and will be bad for one more year. Once demolition finally resumes, we might have ~50 non-FC plots per cycle, similar to NA, but I still wouldn't call that good or non-problematic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Anyways, as promised, I've made before and after to see how many plots got demolished. That number is 6899 plots in both EU DCs. This puts both EU DCs above both Mana and Gaia in housing availability, let's see how will it turn out after few roulette cycles.
    Didn't take a year, did it? It's nice to see you admit EU and JP housing are in a similar state while NA is the only one with problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Right now, JP has average of 504, EU with current spike has just 503, so yeah, I'll keep being skeptic, and I will be surprised if this number stays above 300 in few months.
    More than 800 houses on most EU worlds. Looks like I was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Didn't take a year, did it? It's nice to see you admit EU and JP housing are in a similar state while NA is the only one with problems.
    Yes, it didn't take year, demolition was on and off since EW released, and this initial spike is still lower than 2 JP DCs, you need to wait to see how many of them will actually be left after multiple roulette cycles. I didn't admit what you try to claim I admit, I stand by that data from before demo resumed (and today's), which showed that situation in both EU and NA is terrible, this was conclusion of the analysis, you started to twist by saying that it's all pointless, since demo resumes in near future. Maybe you should work on your understanding of past, present and future, they're quite a different things.

    Today I presented a data which show that right now, after demo finally resumed, that there is quite a bit of free plots (you couldn't get number of demolished houses if I didn't get that "pointless" data from before, you're welcome). You could try that sometimes, you know, backing up your claims with some actual data or facts, or at least pointing out where is factual fallacy in my data. Not some "hurr durr, demo starts in few weeks, all will be unicorns and rainbows after that, so everything now and in the past is pointless".

    As a side note, I also said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    I already told you I'll rerun this in few days to see how will demolition affect it. I'm skeptic that resuming of auto demolition will fix EU housing but I'm ready to be happily surprised. I would say EU will be healthy if we had at least comparable amount of private/unrestricted plots as average JP server has, which is around 498, right now EU is at 159 with new servers included.
    Right now, JP has average of 504, EU with current spike has just 503, so yeah, I'll keep being skeptic, and I will be surprised if this number stays above 300 in few months.
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    Last edited by Deo14; 07-07-2023 at 07:29 AM.