Genuine Question Here

[IkaraGreydancer]

Ok, if you're being genuine, I'll bite. For one, people who have criticisms for the game are not in the majority as yet no matter how loud we may seem. Some of us get aggressive because we have been attacked, shouted down, called fascist, called genocidal, called Trancers, just because we think the Ancients got crapped on by the dev team and Venat got elevated far more than she should have and did not get called on her crap. For two, no, I don't think they should "go away". I just want them to desist in shouting us down and actually understand our point of view and admit hey, there may be a grain of rightness in what we're saying and that we may just have a point.

I can see how it'd feel that way and I'll be the first to say I've done this to a few posters here that get under my skin. I've also had it done to me as well when offering counterpoints to criticism. As it's been said alot of this ire is due to 2 very different camps wanting 2 different things for the game. It sparks a clash on what is and isn't right. That's when talk of the majority of players comes in with most being more casual. Their wants are no more important ofc but it does seem SE is trying to cater to them more but at least keep the other crowd somewhat happy with higher end content.

This question doesn't feel genuine.

If you feel this I'll say like I did to the others. Move along.

Also to whoever keeps changing the tags to false things I ask you please stop. This isn't drama. It's discussion about the health of these forums.

[Axxion]

I can see how it'd feel that way and I'll be the first to say I've done this to a few posters here that get under my skin. I've also had it done to me as well when offering counterpoints to criticism. As it's been said alot of this ire is due to 2 very different camps wanting 2 different things for the game. It sparks a clash on what is and isn't right. That's when talk of the majority of players comes in with most being more casual. Their wants are no more important ofc but it does seem SE is trying to cater to them more but at least keep the other crowd somewhat happen with higher end content.


If you geel this I'll say like I did to the others. Move along.

Also to whoever keeps changing the tags to false things I ask you please stop. This isn't drama. It's discussion about the health of these forums.

a few things if you hover over the tags it will tell you who did it

now for the topic for a sec a good example is drks living dead. Legit people kept saying it was the best CD for the longest time. But you know it kills you if you didnt get healed correctly. Even tho it "planned" if a healer that has never heal a drk before they would not know at the time. it took them until endwalker just to fix it.

And they said during a live ;letter that they did not know that it was a problem. Mind youtubers like xeno and other mentioned time after time that they need to take a look at it

[Alleluia]

a few things if you hover over the tags it will tell you who did it

+1 Did not know that.

[BaconBits]

a few things if you hover over the tags it will tell you who did it

[Nav_Fae]

I never even looked at the forum tags until today

[AwesomeJr44]

If you feel this I'll say like I did to the others. Move along. This isn't drama. It's discussion about the health of these forums.

It seems like your question is indirectly asking whether others want an echo chamber, and yet if they question your premise, you ask them to leave so that you can have an echo chamber. That's why the premise of the OP is ingenuine. If it's a true discussion about the health of the forums, telling people to leave would be antithetical to your goal.

Someone addressing the negativity of the forums being rude to people cynical of the intent. The irony

Ikara's OP seems hypocritical at it's core considering their later responses, doesn't it? I feel that I am well within being reasonable to question the intent.

[Kolaina]

If you feel this I'll say like I did to the others. Move along.

Someone addressing the negativity of the forums being rude to people cynical of the intent. The irony

[Kolaina]

Ikara's OP seems hypocritical at it's core considering her later responses, doesn't it? I feel that I am well within being reasonable to question the intent.

I was going to point out their hypocrisy, but I went the route I did. I’m sure I’ll get told to move along again, or worse. I’m not the echo chamber they desire

[GTK0HLK]

Are they wrong though..,
at the end of it all, if people don't want to be honest, despite who ever brought the thread, the original question, or continued the topic in a rough way..,?

if we aren't going to partake as we all would like it to be. then why are we here.

while true what some have said, it also proves them right. (like when someone phrases things wrong and gets many reactions, but those reactions ended up showing a sliver of truth in what they said.)

Personally, I hope I have been generally neutral, without betraying what I believe in/is best. (Which over all includes what most want.)

it was honestly temporarily disappointing when the True Trolls Resurrected Threads, made clear bait threads pretending to be TFreak level of logic, OR its Antithesis actually drew responses from some users who ought to know better. but it is how it is, sometimes it's nice to pretend or actually be Honest and Respond, despite their intent to be derailing or bait.

[Turning their Harmful actions, into informative ones against their desires and I'll intent, in order to inform those who aren't as informed.]

But that's just me.

TLDR:
The Forum can do so much better, but it honestly could improve enough if we try to be honest when can. (Besides, no one likes to be a Hypocrit that inadvertently proved themselves both wrong and right.)
and ignore the generally obvious trolls(the True ones) and dismantle the disinformation they spread.

And not lose sight of the conversation when we are discussing things of some worth.

[MagesBal]

It seems like your question is indirectly asking whether others want an echo chamber, and yet if they question your premise, you ask them to leave so that you can have an echo chamber. That's why the premise of the OP is ingenuine. If it's a true discussion about the health of the forums, telling people to leave would be antithetical to your goal.

OP has many skeletons in their closet. Too many posts of them telling people criticizing the game to shut up and leave. A search of their interactions with aveyond-dreams reveal a certain pattern of behavior.

Trust in the moderation system. The bad will eventually be cleansed. The good have no reason to fear.

Good people would not be afraid of people reporting them, and no one reports good people. Don't violate the ToS and nothing will happen to you.