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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Genuine Question Here

    Would those who have issues with the game in its current state prefer those who don't share said issues leave these forums? Ive seen alot of talk of you guys being silenced n such by these people and them being the reason the game is in an apparent decline. So I ask this just to see what the opinion on that is. Would you guys prefer if the space was more for just negative feedback?
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    2023/06/29 21:06; IkaraGreydancer が最後に編集

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    Idle Musings
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    Pointless, meta drama thread that has nothing to do with FF14. Only outcome of this thread if anyone feeds this troll is more pointless forum drama. Probably made by a troll alt.

    Report and move on.

    (65)

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    Quote 引用元:strikers 投稿を閲覧
    Pointless, meta drama thread that has nothing to do with FF14. Probably made by a troll alt.

    Report and move on.

    You see my post count and join date. Ive posted 1063 times more than you yet...im the troll alt? How does that work? Youve posted once....Next you say it's not about 14 yet...its the main point of the question. Feedback for 14 and how certain posters would like things to be around here. Nothing I have said or done here is worthy of being reported so can we not weaponize that system?

    It would seem now that moderation seems to have returned folks are report happy now to anything they think is bad. That's a dangerous precedent to set.
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    2023/06/29 20:57; IkaraGreydancer が最後に編集

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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    2015/11/21
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    Sargatanas
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    白魔道士 Lv 60
    Quote 引用元:IkaraGreydancer 投稿を閲覧
    You see my post count and join date. Ive posted 1063 times more than you yet...im the troll alt? How does that work? Youve posted once....Next you say it's not about 14 yet...its the main point of the question. Feedback for 14 and how certain posters would like things to be around here. Nothing I have said or done here is worthy of being reported so can we not weaponize that system?
    It's clear they are the troll alt used to spread drama. Just ignore them. It's all that can be done. People around here lately are more interested in drama than anything else. This thread won't be taken seriously even if someone answers it seriously. There are too many on the forums who don't care right now, and only want to spread as much turmoil as possible. There's an opinion faction war on these forums and at the end of the day nobody will ever be able to make any sense of it because nobody really knows what's going on and why people are so disingenuously passive aggressive.
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    Quote 引用元:Nav_Fae 投稿を閲覧
    It's clear they are the troll alt used to spread drama. Just ignore them. It's all that can be done. People around here lately are more interested in drama than anything else. This thread won't be taken seriously even if someone answers it seriously. There are too many on the forums who don't care right now, and only want to spread as much turmoil as possible. There's an opinion faction war on these forums and at the end of the day nobody will ever be able to make any sense of it because nobody really knows what's going on and why people are so disingenuously passive aggressive.
    Thing is I'd like to ignore it but if I'm banned because folks decide I'm some troll alt or something (any rational person can look n see this is not the case) I can't say I'd be to happy about that. I simply want to see where folks stand on this topic because for some folks it seems this is what they want. But I'd rather have a discussion on what folks want for/from the forums rather than assume most just want a criticism echo chamber. It's literally a "help me understand you n what you want this space to be" thread basically.
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    TheDecay's Avatar
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    Quote 引用元:IkaraGreydancer 投稿を閲覧
    Thing is I'd like to ignore it but if I'm banned because folks decide I'm some troll alt or something (any rational person can look n see this is not the case) I can't say I'd be to happy about that. I simply want to see where folks stand on this topic because for some folks it seems this is what they want. But I'd rather have a discussion on what folks want for/from the forums rather than assume most just want a criticism echo chamber. It's literally a "help me understand you n what you want this space to be" thread basically.
    I would just like to remind people that it is highly unlikely he/she actually cares about understanding the other side. They already have a preconception and a strawman set up in their mind:

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    Don't yall crap on the Twitter side of this community for doing this?
    Quote 引用元:IkaraGreydancer 投稿を閲覧
    Isn't your camp the same folks talking about XIV fans being to soft and immature?
    Quote 引用元:IkaraGreydancer 投稿を閲覧
    Your hivemind will think they are as per usual as someone is either always right or always wrong here. But I can tell talking with you is only further devolving to the same old nonsensical bs
    Quote 引用元:IkaraGreydancer 投稿を閲覧
    But I forget you operate on the logic that CBU3 has done nothing right...yet you still pay monthly for the game. By your own logic you're either here because of bad WoW or you're one of those so called sheeple SE fans.
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    Quote 引用元:strikers 投稿を閲覧
    Pointless, meta drama thread that has nothing to do with FF14. Only outcome of this thread if anyone feeds this troll is more pointless forum drama. Probably made by a troll alt.

    Report and move on.

    I would concur, this thread is unlikely to have spawned out of a genuine desire for debate and dialogue, and there is little reason to take it seriously.
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    2023/06/29 21:11; TheDecay が最後に編集
    Dealing with bad-faith forum posters who tell you to quit or say your concern is in the minority:
    1. Do not engage in their bad-faith attacks.
    2. Warn others of their bad-faith if they have a long history of it.
    3. Continue the productive conversation and silently report them for personal attacks.
    Be firm but polite, recognize their tactics and don't fall into their traps.

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    Quote 引用元:Nav_Fae 投稿を閲覧
    Love how it's been people with 5 posts and fewer who joined the forums in June 2023 who have posted this and similar three times now.
    Not really surprising it's the same person doing it.
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    MagesBal's Avatar
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    Quote 引用元:Nav_Fae 投稿を閲覧
    Love how it's been people with 5 posts and fewer who joined the forums in June 2023 who have posted this and similar three times now.
    Hmm, you look like you're itching for the gaze of the Emperor.



    Quote 引用元:IkaraGreydancer 投稿を閲覧
    It IS a dangerous precedent to set. Mass reporting someone for what you THINK they're doing wrong is not good nor fair. Doesn't matter if they get banned or not. It's the principle behind the action.
    Don't violate the ToS and no one would even report you. Simple.
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    In addition to the restrictions set out in the Square Enix Account Terms of Use, the following actions are not allowed while participating in the forums. With the intention of improving the experience of the game for all participants, if a post includes any of the following violations, we reserve the right to take action including permanently banning either your FINAL FANTASY XIV Account or Square Enix Account.
    Posting content that does not follow the theme of the category or thread.

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    Alleluia's Avatar
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    Regana Redwyne
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    Quote 引用元:MagesBal 投稿を閲覧
    Hmm, you look like you're itching for the gaze of the Emperor.
    Big talk, but the mods aren't just gonna ban someone on your say so, even if you do mass report. They do actually do their job when a report is sent to them. Also, stop threatening other posters.
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    Quote 引用元:Alleluia 投稿を閲覧
    They do actually do their job when a report is sent to them. Also, stop threatening other posters.
    Yes, my friend, we have seen six rule violators fall over the last two weeks. They do their jobs. But it is not a threat to anyone. They are not related to you and no one has anything to fear... so long as they follow the ToS.
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    In addition to the restrictions set out in the Square Enix Account Terms of Use, the following actions are not allowed while participating in the forums. With the intention of improving the experience of the game for all participants, if a post includes any of the following violations, we reserve the right to take action including permanently banning either your FINAL FANTASY XIV Account or Square Enix Account.
    Posting content that does not follow the theme of the category or thread.

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