Genuine Question Here

[R041]

Let's feed this troll thread more.

You're great at just being contrarian. This thread is 0 substance and only shows attention seeking behavior. It just tries to start more drama.

On brand.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I full well expect to be banned if those 26 people who liked the post saying to report me actually does it. All because people dislike me n my view on things.

Strange. First post from that person. One class levelled and all 90 crafts. I wonder what this looks like? I actually reported that poster instead.

[MaxCarnage]

If you believe this to be true as I said to Decay, why comment? Just to leave an insult to feel better? You're only contributing to the very problem im mentioning. There is no pot stirring so long as people stay civil which they have so far. So I'll ask you as well to take that elsewhere.

In order for there to have been civility, the original post would have to be civil as well, instead of being a question in regards to a preconceived notion you already had; that being that the people who feel "silenced" are the only ones who may feel a certain way about the forums being better without their opposition there.

The question was disingenuous. It wasn't a "do you feel like the forums would be better if either side were more open-minded to opposing ideas?" (which yes, it would be.) It was a "do the complainers feel the forums would be better if the defenders left", which is bias and ill-spirited.

As for why people comment? Because they have something to say. This is a forum. You can't gatekeep the reactions people have to what you say.

I think everyone can agree people need to be less blind to differing opinions in order for there to be any meaningful discussion. And until that happens, every discussion will turn into a pissing contest. Including this one.

Weren't you ever told as a child not to touch the stove while it's hot?

[SomeGuy22]

You're screwed if you offer counterpoints to criticism, you're also screwed if you open a dialogue to try n understand what exactly the criticism heavy side wants with the forums.

Heavily disagree with you there. The criticism heavy side wants their complaints to be heard, and not dismissed outright. That's it. How many times were people accused of being a troll alt for disliking something? How many times were those complaints answered with "then why are you paying a sub" or "I don't see the issue/it doesn't affect me, so you're wrong"? In the latter, even when those answers aren't posted in bad-faith, they don't contribute anything to the actual topic. Offering counterpoints is fine, but most often than not, it's the way it's offered that ends up building the vitriol in here.

Honestly have respect for people (...) who didnt write the thread off as "bait" n still commented on this

OP I'm gonna be real with you, your post is very easy to read as "Do the negative posters want an echo-chamber". Blowback to that is pretty expected, especially due to the state of the forums

[Ivtrix]

I reported the second post. OP is fine. Infact they had the balls to ask a question that several of us have been feeling but lacked the confidence to openly ask.

Did this really need a post though? They already deleted the blog post of a thinly veiled threat that people who take forum disputes ingame will be banned (and just to be clear for the dense mfers who think otherwise but dming people ingame over forum disputes is cringe asf)

It’s only a matter of time before this thread goes up in flames too. It’s not contributory to the state of the game it’s purely a meta post.

[ZephyrMenodora]

dming people ingame over forum disputes is cringe asf)

People do this? LOL.

[Nav_Fae]

Did this really need a post though? They already deleted the blog post of a thinly veiled threat that people who take forum disputes ingame will be banned (and just to be clear for the dense mfers who think otherwise but dming people ingame over forum disputes is cringe asf)

It’s only a matter of time before this thread goes up in flames too. It’s not contributory to the state of the game it’s purely a meta post.

I think this was a matter of who wrote the post and who it came from, and how they wrote it vs what people think/feel. Some of us do think and feel this way, but none thought to write a post about it because it is non-contributory. But then again, there are a lot of threads written by a certain person's marid of alts that are also non-contributory and yet gain far more traction in favor of their point. Probably boils down to the induvial's reputation rather than the thread.

People do this? LOL.

Yes, they do. It has happened to me a few times though it has been awhile since the last.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Yes, they do. It has happened to me a few times though it has been awhile since the last.

Wow...that really is taking things a bit far. Geez. If you disagree with someone don't follow them around in game. Let them enjoy themselves and keep your discussions in the forum they chose to discuss in.

[R041]

People do this? LOL.

This has happened to me - It's really psychotic behavior.

I've had people literally sit at my house, and tell their FC to also sit at my house and harass me. It's so fucked. Took like 2 weeks of reporting them to GMs for it to stop.

[Nav_Fae]

Wow...that really is taking things a bit far. Geez. If you disagree with someone don't follow them around in game. Let them enjoy themselves and keep your discussions in the forum they chose to discuss in.

A lot of people on the forums get mocked and ridiculed for posting with throw away alt characters on their profile, but it's a bit of protection really. Some would view it as a sign of weakness and a lack of backbone. But it's really just, we don't want to be bothered in-game over stuff from the forums. People on Twitter, Reddit, and even Twitch chat can all post confidently their thoughts without it being traced back to their main characters. The forums is much different. If you say an opinion piece and you are on the wrong side of the argument, people will know, and it could follow you. Depending on what you said/did. Some would say that's called being held accountable, but I'd just rather have that stress-free anonymous feeling that you can get from the other forums.