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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The login queues are literally fake, the servers slow down the logins on purpose to make it seem like the servers are full but they arent, that's the reason why at 5 AM on Sagittarius which is an absolute dead server that was open recently you get 30 people queues, yet it's 5 in the morning.
    What other conspiracies can you whip up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    What other conspiracies can you whip up
    "conspiracies"

    Maybe play the game and look at the screen, it says "The server is full" yet there's 5 people in Limsa on sagi at night

    so who's logging in?

    Oooooh I get it, it's like Vel said ! It's all the australians and the ones from NZ obviously !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    "conspiracies"

    Maybe play the game and look at the screen, it says "The server is full" yet there's 5 people in Limsa on sagi at night

    so who's logging in?

    Oooooh I get it, it's like Vel said ! It's all the australians and the ones from NZ obviously !
    I play. You just troll the forums pissy at anyone not taking a crap on the game. Some of us still enjoy what we pay for. Others, like you, hate the game so much you have multiple accounts. That’s your logic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I play. You just troll the forums pissy at anyone not taking a crap on the game. Some of us still enjoy what we pay for. Others, like you, hate the game so much you have multiple accounts. That’s your logic
    Nothing to respond to what I said I see

    Good, as expected, calling it a conspiracy but nothing to respond to what I mentioned, let me ask again

    Who is logging in and creating a 30-40 people queue at 5 AM on a new EU world, hell even on the entire DC ? Why is Sagittarius which is a new world full between 4 and 5 AM ?

    Exactly, it's literally a lie, because its obvious none of the EU worlds are full at 4 or 5 AM.

    Keep coping with your conspiracy garbage, the evidence is there, or is 5 people in Limsa a full world now ? Are we really down to that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Nothing to respond to what I said I see

    Good, as expected, calling it a conspiracy but nothing to respond to what I mentioned, let me ask again

    Who is logging in and creating a 30-40 people queue at 5 AM on a new EU world, hell even on the entire DC ?
    Let me get this confirmed?

    Are you unironically under the impression that those queries are faked to give the game a false sense of popularity? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Let me get this confirmed?

    Are you unironically under the impression that those queries are faked to give the game a false sense of popularity? LOL
    I will respond with what has already been said as I have nothing to add

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    The servers cant handle more than 5 people logging in at the same time. So even just bots crashing and relogging causes those fake login queues. Has the "bonus" effect of making people believe the game is more popular than it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I understand why they do the login queue, I just don't understand why they haven't rewritten the message that's displayed so that it doesn't lie and say the world is full. It could just say "logging in, please wait" or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Some companies would.

    Considering how often I don't have any login queue during off peak hours, I doubt SE is abusing the system in order to trick players.

    People can throw out their cynical tinfoil hat theories if they want. Having to wait in a 30 second log in queue isn't going to convince someone with common sense and some MMO experience that it's a sign a game is massively populated at the moment.

    Titanmen, if you're reading this: don't forget to bookmark this thread to necro when 7.0 is released. It will be a relevant topic.
    Anecdotal, I always have the queue unless I login at 3AM, don't care.

    Having to wait in a 30 second log in queue isn't going to convince someone with common sense
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...g-Login-Queues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I will respond with what has already been said as I have nothing to add
    If the impression from that is "OMG the game must be so full and popular" - Then I would argue those people are lost.

    They aren't really faked, the logins are arguably just done in a buffer so that simultaneous login requests cannot effectively DDoS other players in the queue, or from the world itself. They would be entirely separate, in this regard it's just a misleading message to say the world is full. But then arguably most people would conflate the message anyway, in that most people would see login server queue as being synonymous with "The world must be full"

    Edit: It's hardly done with an intent to 'fake' numbers or to give some mystical weight to the worlds/game being more popular than it is. From an infrastructure/networking PoV, there are pretty clear reasons why such a system is and would be in place.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-15-2023 at 06:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingErial View Post
    I didnt ask, but thank you, also the fact you dont know Titanmen is Skiros shows how clueless you are

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If the impression from that is "OMG the game must be so full and popular" - Then I would argue those people are lost.

    They aren't really faked, the logins are arguably just done in a buffer so that simultaneous login requests cannot effectively DDoS other players in the queue, or from the world itself. They would be entirely separate, in this regard it's just a misleading message to say the world is full. But then arguably most people would conflate the message anyway, in that most people would see login server queue as being synonymous with "The world must be full"

    Edit: It's hardly done with an intent to 'fake' numbers or to give some mystical weight to the worlds/game being more popular than it is. From an infrastructure/networking PoV, there are pretty clear reasons why such a system is and would be in place.
    So every other game is doing it wrong I guess ? Even WoW ?
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 06-15-2023 at 07:23 AM.

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