I Can't Do this Anymore

[Archeron]

You're either good enough to climb or you're not, its literally as simple as that. If you're not good enough to climb then you will remain where you got stuck at. Nothing about that is gatekeeping, its just a simple fact of how ranking systems work. Its not a progression system, its a RANKING.

Of course someone like you would defend the ranking system the way it is.

What if you want to rank with a non meta job? Does that have to do with your skill? No? Then it's really not a skill issue then, is it? It's not much of a ranking system, and it comes down to luck when you get consecutive loss streaks that tank all of your work. I'm glad the gatekeepers come out of the woodworks the second I call them out too, I laughed for a solid few at that.

[Ransu]

Of course someone like you would defend the ranking system the way it is.

What if you want to rank with a non meta job? Does that have to do with your skill? No? Then it's really not a skill issue then, is it? It's not much of a ranking system, and it comes down to luck when you get consecutive loss streaks that tank all of your work. I'm glad the gatekeepers come out of the woodworks the second I call them out too, I laughed for a solid few at that.

Then rank up with a non "meta" job (all the jobs are viable). I did it in season 1 and 2 with BRD.

yo-yoing is normal for any ranked system, but at the end of the day calling it "luck" shows that you're just not good enough. I was crystal in Seasons 1-3 and in season 3 they reset everyone back to bronze so I've made that climb twice. Stopped queueing because ranked queues were too long and I was back into bronze this season since I wasn't actively playing every season. Guess what? I'm almost back to diamond and I basically only play like twice a week an hour before before raid nights. If I played more I'd probably be crystal already and I kind of wish I did play more because I get the feeling once I hit diamond the queue's will go back to being 30 minutes again.

Stop making excuses for why you can't climb.

[Archeron]

Then rank up with a non "meta" job (all the jobs are viable). I did it in season 1 and 2 with BRD.

yo-yoing is normal for any ranked system, but at the end of the day calling it "luck" shows that you're just not good enough. I was crystal in Seasons 1-3 and in season 3 they reset everyone back to bronze so I've made that climb twice. Stopped queueing because ranked queues were too long and I was back into bronze this season since I wasn't actively playing every season. Guess what? I'm almost back to diamond and I basically only play like twice a week an hour before before raid nights. If I played more I'd probably be crystal already and I kind of wish I did play more because I get the feeling once I hit diamond the queue's will go back to being 30 minutes again.

Stop making excuses for why you can't climb.

Wheres the excuse? I'm not the one in this thread complaining that I can't rank. I'm criticizing the ranking system. Do you have no reading comprehension?

[ThaCa]

Yes if you reached crystal ranked at all i suggest you go and play the lotto

I guess the regulars at top 100 are incredibly good at lotto, though I don't think most of them have won the Jumbo cactpot.

Sure the system has its faults, the whole thing with Stars like Hearthstone is complete crap and the extended bracket nonsense makes early and mid ranks a horrible experience for newer player. Lack of proper chat and re-using sound effects / no visuals on the chat calls is plain bad design. Extremely slow and unresponsive GMs to reports lets griefers and ragers go free and at time unpunished etc.

Despite everything the climb is still entirely doable, as my newer friends pushed Diamond with some coaching. They did say that the game is incredibly more coinflippy in lower ranks which makes it annoying bs to trawl through and based on the S3 full reset experience I agree to a point. Having to adjust to teams that lack basics or some that have 1 player that performs vastly better or worse than others among all the other variables just favors playing a Job that can hard carry better instead of those that are more reliant on team coordination.

Until SE finally picks up their brain from the floor and just makes the whole Ranked use Crystal Score from the beginning and bit heavier +/- modifiers to compensate, the climbs will remain incredibly streaky and zero sum game.

[Anzeal]

Of course someone like you would defend the ranking system the way it is.

What if you want to rank with a non meta job? Does that have to do with your skill? No? Then it's really not a skill issue then, is it? It's not much of a ranking system, and it comes down to luck when you get consecutive loss streaks that tank all of your work. I'm glad the gatekeepers come out of the woodworks the second I call them out too, I laughed for a solid few at that.

I used to think like you because I was hard-stuck at low Dia/Plat last season. So rn I having a long summer vacation, I have improved my skills by creating alts in both JP, NA and somehow I know I get better and better by only playing and practicing in Ranked (not Casual because you will get a bad habit and it's one side battle).

I tried many strategies, baiting people in overtime, etc... (JP Ranked stays active till the last day of the season). I start fresh this season in both DC, my main and 2 other alts all climbed Crystal tier and even got to the leaderboard (Primal/Elemental) all by non-meta jobs like SCH/BLM/SMN/MCH.I climbed to Crystal in JP first since I have lower ping so I thought it was my Ping that halted my progression, then I tried with my alt in NA to test if I could climb too with a high ping in NA DC and yes I climbed. With enough experiment I'm sure it's skill issues, sometimes you get bad matches that you lose anyway but if you are above other's skills, you sure have carry potential.

And yes, I think I have some luck this early season because after getting to Crystal tier I now ping pong at 0-600 Crystal credit, I really see my skill gap with the top 30 players. When you get to Crystal tier you will see you have to think faster and keep improving your skills if you want to get Credit otherwise you stayed at low credit/demotion.

This is my experience so far with CC Ranked in this game I want to share, with no offenses .

[Bluish]

Then rank up with a non "meta" job (all the jobs are viable). I did it in season 1 and 2 with BRD.

yo-yoing is normal for any ranked system, but at the end of the day calling it "luck" shows that you're just not good enough. I was crystal in Seasons 1-3 and in season 3 they reset everyone back to bronze so I've made that climb twice. Stopped queueing because ranked queues were too long and I was back into bronze this season since I wasn't actively playing every season. Guess what? I'm almost back to diamond and I basically only play like twice a week an hour before before raid nights. If I played more I'd probably be crystal already and I kind of wish I did play more because I get the feeling once I hit diamond the queue's will go back to being 30 minutes again.

Stop making excuses for why you can't climb.

Oh that's interesting...It's only some two full weeks since the new season so you climbed from bronze to end of plat in what? 4 hours of total play? If that's all correct than I do see that a bunch of us must be doing it all wrong and we sorely need your advice on how to get this gud! You sure should add an hour here and there whilst it's still active. I'd love to get feedback on the rest of your climb, should you go for it.

My "skill level" means it took me 4 hours or more to get through gold alone and another bunch to get through plat just to get knocked back so I would now need to go through plat again... I don't want to for too many reasons but that's not the point.

For those still having a good time in cc, enjoy the hell out of it!

For those who don't, you are not here to feel bad and the negativity from cc is sticky and can easily have a spillover effect on other aspects of you life in game and otherwise so go be awesome in other content and spare yourself some bad vibes!

[Ransu]

I played most of my matches on patch day to catch the fast queues and get out of bronze, so ya probably 7 or 8 hours total. Bronze was easy to get out of. Gold was kind of a chore though. Saturday was the last time I queued. Got about 3 games in before raid. Should have stopped at plat 2, but I queued one more time and lost the next match and dropped to plat 3 xD. It is what it is lol. I should sit down and push to diamond, but Diablo IV has been eating up most of my play time lol. Just sucks knowing that once I hit diamond the queue's will probably die.

I'm not really sure what kind of advice to give though. All I really do is try to keep my deaths to a minimum and I use macros to mark focus targets and call to fall back when losing fights. Its up in the air most of the time, but if you're as pro-active as possible to coordinate with the tools you have it will lead to more wins than losses. It also helps if you yourself can secure solid kills. If I manage to get a pick at the start of a match I'd say about 70% of the time it will snowball in my teams favor. Sometimes though you just get those bad matches with people doing their own thing and running in one at a time or just simply don't use their CD's correctly. Can't really control those and just have to accept the loss.

[Towa-Musa]

You're not good at pvp.

you did not read my post at all, good job on outing yourself as a Pvp andie lmfao

[Towa-Musa]

I guess the regulars at top 100 are incredibly good at lotto, though I don't think most of them have won the Jumbo cactpot.

Sure the system has its faults, the whole thing with Stars like Hearthstone is complete crap and the extended bracket nonsense makes early and mid ranks a horrible experience for newer player. Lack of proper chat and re-using sound effects / no visuals on the chat calls is plain bad design. Extremely slow and unresponsive GMs to reports lets griefers and ragers go free and at time unpunished etc.

Despite everything the climb is still entirely doable, as my newer friends pushed Diamond with some coaching. They did say that the game is incredibly more coinflippy in lower ranks which makes it annoying bs to trawl through and based on the S3 full reset experience I agree to a point. Having to adjust to teams that lack basics or some that have 1 player that performs vastly better or worse than others among all the other variables just favors playing a Job that can hard carry better instead of those that are more reliant on team coordination.

Until SE finally picks up their brain from the floor and just makes the whole Ranked use Crystal Score from the beginning and bit heavier +/- modifiers to compensate, the climbs will remain incredibly streaky and zero sum game.

crystal rank does not hold much water lol
I killed the crap out of a couple of crystal ranks while climbing back to plat and the weapon glam with glow is meh at best thusly i wont be bothering with it since theres 100% no reason for me to do so while casual CC is infinitely more fun.

also i got to plat while treating ranked like its casual lol

[Towa-Musa]

Wheres the excuse? I'm not the one in this thread complaining that I can't rank. I'm criticizing the ranking system. Do you have no reading comprehension?

Hes a pvp andie, of course he cant read.