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  1. #1
    Player
    gioroggia's Avatar
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    Brys Beddict
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Not sure what u want, if u cant advance a rank is because u belong to that rank, that have been always the case with ranking systems, Dota, LoL, or any other.

    What do u think? that u can keep your win ratio the more you go up? lol is like complaining u cant win a CS:GO tournament after spending 20k hours in the game.

    The only solution is to admit, you are not as good as you think u are. Here I am, stuck in GOLD as BLM only, I win 1 lose 3. Do I care? no, my goal is still the same, reach platinum... will I reach it? maybe if they balance the jobs someday :_) but the system is not the problem, is more, thanks SE for not allowing derank like other games.

    Some of you are very very spoiled, dont touch competitive if u cant handle to lose or to realize you are not as good as you think.
    Hmmm... I think that on the surface what you say appears correct. However, I wonder if there isn't something wrong with matchmaking. I say this because at times you seem to be facing the same few players on the opposing team over and over again. And if they're good that can easily lead to losing steaks. I don't know if anyone else noticed that.

    Also, saying that people are in gold because they belong in gold is not actually true. I have more matches and better win/lose ratios than other people I know who are in Diamond, and that's because luck is a very important component.

    Whether you have a 48% or a 56% win ratio matters way less than the distribution of your win and losses... And the distribution is pure RNG. For instance, last night I had a very long losing streak that sent me right back from gold 1 to gold 4. It completely demolished my rank. But if that had happened only a couple matches later I would have been on plat 4 and that losing streak would have barely had any impact on my rank. That's pure luck. The same happens with winning streaks. Consider this: Player 1 is really good and had a 70% win rate in his last 10 matches, distributed in the following manner - W-W-L-W-W-L-W-W-L-W. This netted him 4 stars. Now, Player 2 is above average and won 60% of his last 10 games distributed in the following manner: W-W-W-W-W-W-L-L-L-L. This resulted in him advancing 6 stars. So player 1 with a 70% win/loss ratio advanced four stars while player 2 with a 60% win/loss ratio advanced 6 - even though the difference in skill from someone with 70% wins and someone with 60% wins is GIGANTIC, the player with 60% wins is advancing 50% faster.

    And this is pure RNG.


    That, and the tendency towards rank
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    Ryan77k's Avatar
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    Rufus Wightman
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    Omega
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Honestly, just switch to WAR. Stop doing this to yourself. You're unnecessarily punishing yourself just like I was on GNB. Crystal rank is basically meaningless right now with how busted the jobs are anyway so you may as well do it to save yourself the stress on your mental.

    Admittedly, I say that now but changes are probably taking place tomorrow so for all I know the meta could shift dramatically. Just have to wait and see on that one.
    (1)
    I could've done so much with my life. Then I played FFXIV. 10/10

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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan77k View Post
    Honestly, just switch to WAR. Stop doing this to yourself. You're unnecessarily punishing yourself just like I was on GNB. Crystal rank is basically meaningless right now with how busted the jobs are anyway so you may as well do it to save yourself the stress on your mental.

    Admittedly, I say that now but changes are probably taking place tomorrow so for all I know the meta could shift dramatically. Just have to wait and see on that one.
    Crystal is not worthless because of the busted jobs. At Crystal both teams usually are made of those busted jobs and then the skill decides who wins or not.

    In truth: Crystal will be seen as worthless because of the massive Cheatingsurge that doesnt get any attention.
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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Lamia
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    I have literally spent 5 days straight in Platinum as a MCH. More than once I almost hit Diamond only to fall all the way back to Platinum 4, 0 stars. To say this is tiresome is putting it lightly. Spending days and days making zero progress not because you aren't winning but because you hit an unlucky streak and every lost match is lost progress is nothing resembling enjoyable. I know I would've hit Crystal by now if it wasn't for this rank decay system. Tired of being stunlucked to death in 2 seconds despite putting up shield as a MCH or my teammates just straight up throwing matches (the amount of times I've been the only one pushing crystal while my team just fights one person 50 feet away is too many to count at this point).

    I'm genuinely questioning if the people who say they ranked to Crystal super fast are either lying, cheating, or playing meta jobs exclusively.
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    I have literally spent 5 days straight in Platinum as a MCH. More than once I almost hit Diamond only to fall all the way back to Platinum 4, 0 stars. To say this is tiresome is putting it lightly. Spending days and days making zero progress not because you aren't winning but because you hit an unlucky streak and every lost match is lost progress is nothing resembling enjoyable. I know I would've hit Crystal by now if it wasn't for this rank decay system. Tired of being stunlucked to death in 2 seconds despite putting up shield as a MCH or my teammates just straight up throwing matches (the amount of times I've been the only one pushing crystal while my team just fights one person 50 feet away is too many to count at this point).

    I'm genuinely questioning if the people who say they ranked to Crystal super fast are either lying, cheating, or playing meta jobs exclusively.
    I noticed i play worse when im nervous, frustrated or angered in some way. I also play worse when i play to long. Take your breaks. When you notice that you begin to set into a losing streak stop for the day and try again tomorrow. Worked for me.

    Should it make you wanna quit the Game, quit ranked instead.
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    the MMR is ridiculous. dont know why they make this streak lvling system. i gave up now.
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    Thalia Rhea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I just want to point out that over a year has passed and nothing’s changed. It’s still the same bullshit, and it sucks even harder now that they added a reward worth suffering through this nonsense for. Sucks ass that’ll I’ll probably never get passed gold unfortunately.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwolf444 View Post
    I just want to point out that over a year has passed and nothing’s changed. It’s still the same bullshit, and it sucks even harder now that they added a reward worth suffering through this nonsense for. Sucks ass that’ll I’ll probably never get passed gold unfortunately.
    You're stuck in gold cuz you chase people and also run in and die alone instead of falling back when the team is losing.
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    Miohazuki's Avatar
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    Theldry Rich
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Win, lose, win, lose, win, lose, win, lose.

    Rank go up, Rank go down. Spend all day and just about hit Diamond? Oops here comes a losing streak, now go all the way back down to Platinum 4! Your whole day was just wasted.

    I just can't at this point. The amount of time it has taken me to get this far has been obscene. Way, way way too much of my day is being spent on trying to rank up now due to this garbage system. There is no way to progress to Crystal without outright unhealthy levels of play unless you want this to take months.

    It has ruined CC for me at this point. It's honestly starting to make me resent the entire game. I'm not having fun, I'm already dreading Diamond being even LONGER. There is nothing good, enjoyable, or rewarding about this system. It just flat out sucks. I have no control over who I play with or against. If my teammates throw I'm not going to carry them by myself. There is already enough punishment in not gaining any rank from losing, why should I be further punished by LOSING rank on top of that?

    Everything about this sucks, I'm tired of so much of my day being spent trying to progress because I feel I have to just to have any chance of getting to Crystal in the forseeable future. I hate this, I hate CC now, I'm starting to hate this game. There is nothing about this system that showcases one's skill. You are not going to progress if you don't win. If you are an actual deadweight 4 people are not going to be able to carry you. That is already sufficient punishment. Hell, I would happily give up win streak bonuses, or even gaining exp/marks for losing at all. But outright LOSING PROGRESS is just godawful especially when I do not have total control over the matches. It sucks. It makes the game worse. Please stop making these systems.
    All pvp games are like this .if you can't handle loses then the pvp mode especially ranked mode is not for u
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Don't let people blow smoke up your tail pipe. It's absolutely normal to yo-yo in a ranked pvp system and more so here where random is everything. The only variable you can control is what job you play and how well you play. If you want to stretch it you can counter a bad player if you are proficient at their job thus auto assigning yourself to the opposite team if you get their lobby. It was like this in S1 S2 S3 ... All of them were a yo-yo game for 90% of players regardless of skill. Just do your best and if you lose go to game two or if it's a bad lobby for you Queue down for a bit and go feed your animals on the island. Unless your trying to top 100 crystal is just a matter of perseverance.
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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